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Could we survive??
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08/05/20 01:25 PM
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So when this COVID "pandemic" started a bunch of us laughed. As it took fire the shortages began. Yeah I know we still joke about the TP that went AWOL through out the Country.
It was kinda funny...............at first until you found yourself as one who could not find any TP. I watched as supplies started dwindling. Can goods, hand sanitizer, gloves, masks and the list grew. It grew so much that our meat, chicken, pork etc started deminishing as well.
Prices started getting higher as supply and demand had to be met or some stores just price gauged you. The meat market around here is finally a bit better. For a while HEB was wiped clean and nothing coming in. Yeah I know, the factories workers had COVID ect
My family and I never have been hoarders, preppers and such. We kept a supply of stuff for about a month or so. TP was the only thing that really killed us or trying to buy it. TP is still on the short end in this area anyway.
Makes me rethink if we have been doing it right with everyday items. Also I do not think this Country can suffer anything larger then this virus. This was enough to pretty much cripple us, imo.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 01:34 PM
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So when this COVID "pandemic" started a bunch of us laughed. As it took fire the shortages began. Yeah I know we still joke about the TP that went AWOL through out the Country.
It was kinda funny...............at first until you found yourself as one who could not find any TP. I watched as supplies started dwindling. Can goods, hand sanitizer, gloves, masks and the list grew. It grew so much that our meat, chicken, pork etc started deminishing as well.
Prices started getting higher as supply and demand had to be met or some stores just price gauged you. The meat market around here is finally a bit better. For a while HEB was wiped clean and nothing coming in. Yeah I know, the factories workers had COVID ect
My family and I never have been hoarders, preppers and such. We kept a supply of stuff for about a month or so. TP was the only thing that really killed us or trying to buy it. TP is still on the short end in this area anyway.
Makes me rethink if we have been doing it right with everyday items. Also I do not think this Country can suffer anything larger then this virus. This was enough to pretty much cripple us, imo. A lot of us would survive. Preppers, hunters, fishermen, outdoorsmen, to name a few. The majority would not survive. All the major cities would burn, just take a look at the last few months protesting over a lie being pushed by the media. Billions of dollars burned and dozens of people dead. Imagine if our supply chains stopped, imagine if an EMP hit and our electrical grid went down for good. People would lose their [censored]. Store owners have been killed where they stand trying to protect their store from "peaceful protesters". Imagine what people will do when it is total anarchy with a breakdown of society. It would be the wild west out there.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 01:36 PM
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Me and mine can survive. I've got plenty of bullets and knowledge to get off grid to live a sustainable life for a pretty long time if shtf. I do love my TP, but if push comes to shove, we could work with it. May take a bit to callous up to to the pine cones though.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 02:10 PM
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"There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre." Louis L'Amour
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 02:13 PM
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My family would be ok. Pretty sure Buzz would be dead in the first 5 minutes from a panic attack.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 02:19 PM
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Plenty of other things to wipe your butt with other than toilet paper if push comes to shove.
As far as long term survival - not too worried about my immediate family - short of a nuclear fallout we'd be just fine.
However, I think any sustained problem would wipe out about 2/3 of the US population pretty quickly as the vast majority of people have zero common sense, let alone survival instincts.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 02:49 PM
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 02:58 PM
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I consider myself somewhat handy. I'm a 1/2 arsed mechanic welder chef, I'm an avid hunter and fisherman and have lots of supplies.
That said if tomorrow, someone flipped a switch and the power grid went down, public water quit flowing, retail and manufacturing were gone, gas/diesel/propane etc. were gone, vaccines for people and livestock alike were gone, we were back in the days of hunting for dinner on the daily i think a lot more than less people are going to be in world of hurt.... even the ones who think they are A O K. Even if they are ok for a day or a week or a month, i bet it doesn't take long to turn real southerly for them. Lots of people would die. I may be able to live as in survive=not die for a while, but its not an existence i will probably care to have.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 02:59 PM
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When every person in America is killing deer/hogs/fish etc. to feed their family how long you thing its gonna last before there are none?
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:01 PM
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When every person in America is killing deer/hogs/fish etc. to feed their family how long you thing its gonna last before there are none? If this was the case we'll all be super happy how fast all these feral hogs reproduce.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:02 PM
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When every person in America is killing deer/hogs/fish etc. to feed their family how long you thing its gonna last before there are none? Every person won't be. Only those capable.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:06 PM
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When every person in America is killing deer/hogs/fish etc. to feed their family how long you thing its gonna last before there are none? Every person won't be. Only those capable. Let’s be honest most don’t know how to store meat anyways, Most people don’t even have enough salt or cure handy to make a pounds of jerky
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:12 PM
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:15 PM
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My clan can....not sure about some others I know....
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: Could we survive??
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#7924751
08/05/20 03:19 PM
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2 things made it worse... 1. The media. 2. The reason stores ran low is because we (stores) rely on other countries (China) to fill their shelves.
Do not forget to entertain strangers, For by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels Hebrews 13:2 (R-TX)
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:20 PM
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Plenty of other things to wipe your butt with other than toilet paper if push comes to shove.
As far as long term survival - not too worried about my immediate family - short of a nuclear fallout we'd be just fine.
However, I think any sustained problem would wipe out about 2/3 of the US population pretty quickly as the vast majority of people have zero common sense, let alone survival instincts. Just learn what NOT to wipe with... Leaves of three, let them be.
Do not forget to entertain strangers, For by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels Hebrews 13:2 (R-TX)
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:22 PM
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When every person in America is killing deer/hogs/fish etc. to feed their family how long you thing its gonna last before there are none? Every person won't be. Only those capable. Let’s be honest most don’t know how to store meat anyways, Most people don’t even have enough salt or cure handy to make a pounds of jerky There would be massive amounts of waste no doubt.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:30 PM
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I've already cut back on my portions.
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:30 PM
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I think the best answers thus far on this thread are from redchevy and BOBO. We including myself would like to think we could/would survive. Yea we have guns, ammo fishing equipment etc. During the last few riots of mayhem [censored] here on our soil, some just a few months ago homeowners and business owners were being handed their arsess.
It's in our back yard as close to the State Capital. I really want to believe that all of us, including myself would self preserve. The stats as we have seen in just the last couple of yrs seem at odds with us. It is easy to arm chair qb this but there are people who have tried and sadly failed.
Please don't think I am in any way shape or form pushing the liberal agenda. I truly wish when it came to protecting, feeding and taking care of my family I could do what was/is lawfully necessary. The arrests of law abiding people doing just such have crippled our mind set of self preservation when needed. Truth.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:31 PM
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Think of the large cities, where no food is grown, and all is imported. I think I read that 90% of large city populations would die from riots and starvation. The other 10% would come looking for the things that we country folks have, and attempt to take it from us.
You want to read a chilling book? Read One Second After. It’s the US one second after a huge electromagnetic pulse. The book scared me to death, and I’ve read that the government has used that book for a basis on hardening our grid and our military against an EMP. If you have an old truck and/or tractor that can’t be disabled by an EMP, now’s the time to give them a hug and kind words.
It was a great book, but I still think about it sometimes.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:33 PM
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IMO we were not anywhere near being crippled due to the virus. Some were mentally crippled.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:35 PM
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When food runs out the city dwellers will head to the rural areas and will be desperate for food and supplies. How long do you think it will be before they start shooting cows or other livestock. Rural folks will defend their supplies by all means. Not going to be a pretty picture any where as the haves and have nots battle for survival.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:36 PM
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IMO we were not anywhere near being crippled due to the virus. Some were mentally crippled. Oh I agree. We did ok but watching the lines even her locally just blew my mind as to a Nuclear Holocust of sorts had started but we were no where close. It was a spin with the news media and they just keep churning it.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:36 PM
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Think of the large cities, where no food is grown, and all is imported. I think I read that 90% of large city populations would die from riots and starvation. The other 10% would come looking for the things that we country folks have, and attempt to take it from us.
You want to read a chilling book? Read One Second After. It’s the US one second after a huge electromagnetic pulse. The book scared me to death, and I’ve read that the government has used that book for a basis on hardening our grid and our military against an EMP. If you have an old truck and/or tractor that can’t be disabled by an EMP, now’s the time to give them a hug and kind words.
It was a great book, but I still think about it sometimes. Another good one is Lights Out.
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Re: Could we survive??
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08/05/20 03:49 PM
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Think of the large cities, where no food is grown, and all is imported. I think I read that 90% of large city populations would die from riots and starvation. The other 10% would come looking for the things that we country folks have, and attempt to take it from us.
You want to read a chilling book? Read One Second After. It’s the US one second after a huge electromagnetic pulse. The book scared me to death, and I’ve read that the government has used that book for a basis on hardening our grid and our military against an EMP. If you have an old truck and/or tractor that can’t be disabled by an EMP, now’s the time to give them a hug and kind words.
It was a great book, but I still think about it sometimes. Another good one is Lights Out. Both those are great books as are “Survivors” and “Patriots” by James Wesley Rawles, who also has a pretty interesting website on prepping.
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