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Re: 6mm ARC
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06/08/20 02:17 PM
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Dies are on the way - Midsouth shows in stock today
Still seeking brass ...
6/8/2020: Barrel ordered from McGowen Precision - this is a hunting barrel so
18” Threaded 5/8x24 w an 11 degree target crown, mid-length gas , 1x7.5 twist , 416r stainless with Matte finish , .750 gas block , .078” gas port size.
My Objective for this caliber: I know I don’t buy any special performance for hunting over my current 6.5 Grendel or 308s - quite simply I have 1000 90 grain speed deep curls that need to go from my shop shelf into pigs and this will be a SAMMI supported and economical delivery system versus the other 6mm semi-auto calibers.
Hopefully I can get 3000 FPS , will await load data to know more
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Re: 6mm ARC
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First report I have seen from an actual 6mmARC owner Got out today with the Ballistic Advantage barrel from Brownells in 20”. I dropped it into a Larue built 6.5 Grendel and put a new Monster bolt in. Low profile standard gas block and no break. Shot four groups getting it zeroed with Hornady Black all of which were about 1”. Kicking myself, I left the Magneto speed on the bench.
Went to the steel range to stretch it out. I plugged 2750 into TRASOL and found at 420, 566, and 720 that impacts were a bit high. Trued it to 2720 and it was ringing steel at 840, 950, and 1090. All of the steel is roughly full sized IPSC. Wind was 16 mph from 120 degrees, it handled the wind well. Recoil was very nice and spotting was easy without a brake.
Ran 50 rounds through it and the groups seemed to tighten up some. Last 5 rounds were at 420 and well under 1 MOA. I didn’t bother driving out to measure. I will take the chrono later this week and confirm.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Nice work! I just got word that Brownells is shipping my barrel that I had on order. Should have it next week. Or the week after. Or sometime! These "covid-related delays" in shipping are a bit confusing and maddening at the same time. Looking forward to some range time with the ARC!
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Re: 6mm ARC
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06/22/20 03:37 AM
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Found brass ! It is in the form of loaded 105 grain BTHP (Hornady Black). Midsouth Shooters Supply has it IN STOCK and ON SALE for 20 bucks a box.
This will allow me to have some factory (proof loads) and I can reload the 100 cases for around 1.00 a pull.
Ordered the upper receiver and hand guard today too.
Damn I wish my barrel was ready, already....
Something occurred to me today
90 grain bullets available for 6mm ARC: 10
Game changer, eld-x, Nosler BT, GMX, Accubond, scirocco, e-tip, Berger target, HotCor, Scenar
90 grain bullets available for 6.5 Grendel: 2
TNT, Varmageddon
90 grain bullets available for 6.8 SPC : 2
Gold Dot, TNT
Advantage 6mm ARC - all three calibers drive them to about the same velocity -
And usually sectional density would be less for 6mm BUT from what I’m seeing in comparing the closest apples to apples is intriguing .
6mm HotCor sectional density : .218
6.5mm TNT : .188
6.8 SPC TNT : .168
Advantage 6mm ARC
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Re: 6mm ARC
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I keep seeing AR, what about a Bolt Would you want a bolt? I think I'd go plain jane 243WIN if I wanted a 6mm bolt. 6ARC is a bit weak compared to it, because it was limited to AR15. Had one, was never impressed with the factory ammo I'll take a bolt action or better yet, a pistol(braced). A Tikka CP similar to the Remmy for the smooth action.
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Re: 6mm ARC
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I’m ready - just waiting for a care package from McGowen ..... Anybody up and running yet ????
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Re: 6mm ARC
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I recently tested the 100 gr. Speer BTSP on a pretty good hog. It was almost broadside at 150 yards and I went for a heart shot (bullet testing), hit the onside leg just in front of the "elbow" , opened up considerably and came out the other side in a couple of places making a couple of 1/2 inch holes. Hog flipped backwards, came down on it's back and did the shuffle. Never have I seen a pig bleed this much, it was in a sand trap on a golf course and I have to rake the sand to make it look like the grounds keeper did it along with removing the hog before daylight. Had to go find a shovel, dig a hole and put the bloody sand in the hole and spread the just dug sand evenly with a sand rake. I didn't open the hog up to see how much of the heart was destroyed but it must have still been making some pressure! This from a 243 and velocity is right at 3000fps. Might be a good bullet to try in the ARC.
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Yup, John decided it is time for one.
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Re: 6mm ARC
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A little 6mm ARC load data
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lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: 6mm ARC
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I finally got the last couple of pieces from Brownells and have the rifle built. Unfortunately, I have no brass, no dies, no factory ammo, but I can tell you from personal experience that the my new 6mm ARC dry fires beautifully. I feel that that's good start. . .Some ammo MAY come in from MidSouth this week. Of course, they said it would deliver this week. And Brownells said my low profile, adjustable gas block would be here 2 weeks ago, and it got here yesterday. I'll let y'all know if and when I ever get a chance to launch a round down-range with the new baby.
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Re: 6mm ARC
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I finally got the last couple of pieces from Brownells and have the rifle built. Unfortunately, I have no brass, no dies, no factory ammo, but I can tell you from personal experience that the my new 6mm ARC dry fires beautifully. I feel that that's good start. . .Some ammo MAY come in from MidSouth this week. Of course, they said it would deliver this week. And Brownells said my low profile, adjustable gas block would be here 2 weeks ago, and it got here yesterday. I'll let y'all know if and when I ever get a chance to launch a round down-range with the new baby. Some in stock at LINK
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Went there; they had the Hornady Black in 105 grains so I order some. No 108's in stock.
Thanks for the lead!!
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Re: 6mm ARC
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I saw that one earlier on the 6ARC forum. Guy that owns the 65Grendel forum started another caliber specific forum for the ARC LINK
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Re: 6mm ARC
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I've got everything but some ammo to shoot through it, so I'm ready to go!
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Re: 6mm ARC
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So....
7 weeks after the big reveal , still no load data on Hodgdon’s site
Still no brass available for purchase
And the barrels are hard to come by, at the moment only proof research steel barrels are in stock at a couple places.
A few shooters have come across very small lots from Odin Works, Ballistic Advantage, and CMMG
But so far I’d say the caliber is off to a slow start.....
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Re: 6mm ARC
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So....
7 weeks after the big reveal , still no load data on Hodgdon’s site
Still no brass available for purchase
And the barrels are hard to come by, at the moment only proof research steel barrels are in stock at a couple places.
A few shooters have come across very small lots from Odin Works, Ballistic Advantage, and CMMG
But so far I’d say the caliber is off to a slow start..... Probably got pushed by Marketing to make the announcement, while supply side was hammered by Covid and can’t deliver real product.
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Not sure why it took so long but all the recent cartridge wars reminded me that the only reason why anyone would design something new is to sell more guns and ammo. I mean, it's not like we don't already have plenty of choices that are 100% effective when used correctly.
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Re: 6mm ARC
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Not sure why it took so long but all the recent cartridge wars made me realize the only reason why anyone would design something new is to sell more guns and ammo. I mean, it's not like we don't already have plenty of choices that are 100% effective when used correctly. Everything else is simply a matter of I have one and you don't. Hornady filled the large hole in the 6mm -AR-15 platform market. Before 6-ARC only wildcats were available or stepping up to AR10 (243 Winchester) I’m also of the belief that Hornady marketing got way ahead of the Industry on this and frankly Ir sucks to watch from the sidelines and home brew load recipes off closely related calibers.....
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Re: 6mm ARC
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So....
7 weeks after the big reveal , still no load data on Hodgdon’s site
Still no brass available for purchase
And the barrels are hard to come by, at the moment only proof research steel barrels are in stock at a couple places.
A few shooters have come across very small lots from Odin Works, Ballistic Advantage, and CMMG
But so far I’d say the caliber is off to a slow start..... Slow start for sure considering they delayed their official release since the middle of March at the NRA convention. Hodgdon does have a little data out there, posted a copy of it previously in this thread. Here is the LINK to Hornady data
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