SA I get what you are saying there, and as I mentioned there is no way to prove the knee 100% caused the heart attack. And there is no need to 100% prove the knee caused the heart attack. All they have to do
Is have some expert testify the knee was likely a part in the heart attack not the ultimate cause. Did the knee contribute to the heart attack...that’s all. The reason that’s all they have to show is because Floyd died, he had a heart attack while in police custody. The burden of proof is different now, because this happened on their watch. The burden shifts from what caused the heart attack to what contributed to the heart attack and did the cops actions. Directly contribute to the heart attack. The burden of proof lies in the defense finding someone willing to say with 100% certainty the knee could not have precipitated a heart attack. That, in my medical Opinion, is not going to happen. The plaintiffs will definitely have expert after expert that will testify the knee could have been a factor in the heart attack. That is all they need since the burden of proof isn’t on them due to the fact Floyd DID have a heart attack and died.

There is a huge difference between saying the knee would cause of heart attack and the knee could cause a heart attack. But that is a big difference in this case. The shift in burden of proof is critical.

I always look to my friends who are cops in situations like this. All i know is that I’ve seen dozens of them comment that they too are outraged by the way that officer acted.

I dont think anyone likes what they saw.

The question is, was the officer responsible for floyds death.

Under Minnesota's 3rd Degree Murder Statute the state doesn't need to prove direct cause. They need to prove that his wanton disregard for what was obviously a medical situation contributed to Mr Floyd's death. If they can't prove that but prove culpable negligence then it's 2nd Degree Manslaughter.

One thing about this case is that facts will not matter and the officer will not receive a fair trial. The city has to find the officer guilty or else!

I know this is an internet forum, but there is definitely one thing this whole incident has taught me -- I know who I would buy a beer for and who I wouldn't.

Hope EVERYONE stays safe and I mean that, whether I want to have a beer with you or not.

Yeah, imagine the outrage if the cop walks....you ain’t seen nothing yet if that happens!

I brought this up last week. It will be over a year before he goes to trial. His defense will have a good bias argument with video. The appeals could go on for years. The protesters may do more harm than good.

Fox reporting that independent autopsy shows he died from "asphyxia due to neck and back compression"

ETA - Not surprising that it's different than the ME report, but I'd call this "polarizing" since it's a full 180

Yeah, imagine the outrage if the cop walks....you ain’t seen nothing yet if that happens!

Medical examiner now says death was “homicide resulting from being restrained”

Doesn’t that automatically put LEO#2 with the weight on Floyd’s back in trouble?

After all this BS, does anybody think there’s even a 1% chance of that?

The legal system is set up to allow technicalities to let guilty men walk. If the cops defense team finds evidence of shotty work or can get this thing on a mistrial, we all better be on alert.

Trust me, I don’t want that to happen. I want a good clean trial and guilt or innocence based on the facts of the case, but if the defense pleads down so the cop gets 1-2 years or something perceived as too light, it could still be just as bad.

All depends who is trying the case for the state. If they know what they are doing it should go as it should. If they are not good, TScouldHF

How can 2 autopsy's produce so different results? Maybe because the 2nd one was paid for! So when will the 3rd come out?

Isn't this the same pathologist that performed the second Epstein autopsy? Hasn't he performed several others that conflict with official autopsies? I think anyone with the intelligence of a frog can see what this guy is doing.

Care to re-word this blasphemy?