That report didn't help the cop's defense any.

Well, the tape kind of says it all.

Sneaky , what do you mean by " self inflected conditions "?

Pretty sure those words speak for theirselves. I’ve got better things to do than teach you a language you should already know.

Awww Sneaky , he have sad face. You suck when you have someone that questions you huh? My little kids do as well.

I’m sorry that your little kids suck. Other than that, I have no idea what you’re talking about.

Anyone with any merit could make the case a heart attack was precipitated by the distressed state of low oxygen being that his neck area was being knelt on for 7 minutes. Pre-existing cardiac disease can be found in most folks over the age 40, and if the ME/coroner stares a heart attack is the cause of death, the heart attack was caused by the situation of being in a hypoxia state.

If there are drugs found on toxicology (why does it take 3-4 weeks to get that stuff back when I can run a drug screen on any high schooler in about 30-45 minutes or less) then that can be a reason for an enhanced heart attack risk, but the bottom line is a heart attack is just the thing that killed him, there is no way to prove someone kneeling on his neck didn’t precipitate the heart attack, and the circumstantial evidence would suggest it did.

As has been said before, this report (if true) changes nothing.

Fully agree. I think the two guys on his back were just as responsible. They should arrest all 4.

His neck was knelt on for 8 minutes and 46 seconds, with 2 minutes and 53 seconds of that being after he was unresponsive.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ge...28-20/h_d6de512e51a8858a57f93ffa732c2695

So, if you want to argue semantics and say that all three weren’t on him for nine minutes, go for it, I’m not awake enough right now to argue. Bottom line, someone knelt on him for almost nine minutes, nearly three of which he was unresponsive (kind of hard to resist when you can’t respond) and at least a portion of those eight minutes and 46 seconds he not only had a guy kneeling on his neck, he had two others kneeling on his back and legs.

Im not arguing semantics. I asked a question. Because I didn't see what you described. Your words "Why did three officers put their weight on him for nine minutes after he clearly was subdued and handcuffed? In the videos, he was clearly subdued with three officers on top of him." I didn't see the picture you painted. Just verifying that I didnt miss something. There is a difference between arguing semantics, and arguing facts. No need to respond, I was just verifying your statement.

True, regardless of the official cause of death or toxicology, he died while the officer's knee was on his neck. I think the age old argument of "but for his actions" comes into play here and the officer will never get around that. We can argue forever that based on toxicology and preexisting medical conditions he COULD HAVE died in the back seat of the car had he been left there. The fact is he DID die with a knee on his neck and that fact doesn't go away.

My bad. Like I said,I wasn’t awake yet.

Pretty good guess in my opinion. That may be why all of the videos only show him on the ground instead of him slinging the cops around like someone high on PCP. I am so tired of all of these videos edited to show only one side of the story. I do agree that the knee to the neck was held to long and medical attention should have been addressed. But if there is a video showing them backing off and him getting violent again it might explain the actions by the cops.

One thing about this case is that facts will not matter and the officer will not receive a fair trial. The city has to find the officer guilty or else!

Doesn’t change my stance a bit. Just glad strangulation obfuscation is finished.

I'm gonna disagree. Knowing what he died of is very important to the case. Possible heart attack? Possible that drugs were involved? Possible drug induced heart attack? I dont think being an a-hole is a good reason to charge someone with murder. There is more info that needs to come out, like what happen to get him in that situation. Was he having a heart attack in the cruiser? Did he ever make it into the cruiser? I also heard he resisted getting into the cruiser because he was claustrophobic. Could he have worked himself into a heart attack? Could the thought of going to jail cause him to have a heart attack? There are a lot of circumstances that throw people into heart attacks. Why were the paramedics called? Because he was tripping out on drug? Or because he was hyperventilating? Because he was complaining about having a heart attack? Why and when were they called? To many question right now. The knee on the neck most likely didn't kill him IMO, but that's what plays on everyone's emotions.....then they dig in and wont listen to the facts because they have to much emotionally invested in their position.

Sad but true.

Yep, hell most on here have done the same.

Helloooooo - without the knee on the neck thingie, we probably would not be having this “discussion “.

Yep, not because it killed him, but because it is polarizing, and plays on people's emotions.

Disheartened here.

Yep, especially when 95% of the people have convicted someone of murder without facts. Very disheartening, and disturbing.

Why even investigate at this point.....sad sad world.

Dude if you think what you saw in that video was sop then I don't know what to say. But the moment. The moment that man went limp and that dude left his knee on the back of his head the entire situation changes. The officer had zero. Zero concern for his fellow man. Now if I was an officer and I had just wrestled that dude for 10 minutes I'd be pissed too heck I might have kicked him a few times. Which is why....... I'm not an officer.