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Re: fencing question
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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02/02/20 12:19 PM
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Have used it and Good stuff. It would be perfect for anything and tough as nails.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 12:20 PM
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That works, it is called horse fence just because it has the smaller squares. I horse will tend to put his hoof in a larger mesh and ruin it so they use the 2"x 4" configuration.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 01:17 PM
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Stay Tuff makes a horse fence that is 61 inches high.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 01:26 PM
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I only use Stay-Tuff---> Stay-TuffFencing is named for its most common use, doesn't mean it won't hold up long term for other animals, you can use Horse fence for goats or whatever meets your height requirements.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 01:50 PM
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I'd do a 6 wire electric fence for that. Better for keeping dogs, predators, etc out of the pasture. In the end it would probably cost less than a net wire fence. Just have to spray with Roundup twice per year to keep the weeds/grass off of it.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 01:54 PM
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Excellent choice. I have literally installed miles of it. It is lots of work to install, and your braces can't be over 190' apart. 48" comes in 200' rolls, 60" comes in 100' rolls. You can stretch 200' of 60", but you will have to crimp two rolls together. They make splicing tubes, and the crimping tool is exactly like bolt cutters, but where the jaws are blunted and do not touch each other when closed all the way. You can crimp with bolt cutters, but you have to ease up toward the end so as not to go too deep into the crimp and accidentally cut it. Holler at me if you need help on how to build that stuff, there are lots of tricks to it, especially on steel pipe braces. On wood braces it is easier, but lots of staples. 17 staples on 60" fence at each end. And forget about using fence clips, inevitably the vertical wires will be in the way. Buy a roll of the thick galvanized hot wire, pull off 15' and use it to tie the mesh to the t-posts. Everything about it is time consuming to build, but in the end it is outstanding fence, and it is very goat resistant. Don't forget you need 6' 6" t-posts instead of 6' t-posts.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 02:01 PM
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It will work great for goats. I have installed quite a bit of it in places on my property to keep Deer out.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 02:14 PM
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Excellent choice. I have literally installed miles of it. It is lots of work to install, and your braces can't be over 190' apart. 48" comes in 200' rolls, 60" comes in 100' rolls. You can stretch 200' of 60", but you will have to crimp two rolls together. They make splicing tubes, and the crimping tool is exactly like bolt cutters, but where the jaws are blunted and do not touch each other when closed all the way. You can crimp with bolt cutters, but you have to ease up toward the end so as not to go too deep into the crimp and accidentally cut it. Holler at me if you need help on how to build that stuff, there are lots of tricks to it, especially on steel pipe braces. On wood braces it is easier, but lots of staples. 17 staples on 60" fence at each end. And forget about using fence clips, inevitably the vertical wires will be in the way. Buy a roll of the thick galvanized hot wire, pull off 15' and use it to tie the mesh to the t-posts. Everything about it is time consuming to build, but in the end it is outstanding fence, and it is very goat resistant. Don't forget you need 6' 6" t-posts instead of 6' t-posts. I think I am going it let someone else do the install. I want it to look clean and nice, so me practicing on my first install is not the direction I am heading. Got a price of $3 a foot with me purchasing supplies for the first short run - about 300 or so feet.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 02:59 PM
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I have some around a pasture, but I didn't install it. It was there when I bought the place so I can't help on price. It does a great job for horses. Stx is correct about some hotwire. The predators and dogs will dig under or even climb over eventually unless there is something to deter them. I wound up running a hot wire above the top because the horses like to scratch their butts on the fence and that will do a quick job of messing it up. I don't see that problem with goats. My brother had his place leased to a guy that had sheep and he had trouble with coyotes. They'll dig under.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 03:18 PM
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Won't a donkey or two usually solve the predator problem?
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 03:26 PM
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My neighbor has 4 donkeys and he's got more coyotes than anyone around. If you need protection using an animal get a Pyrenees. I had a Mastiff Pyrenees mix and he was a coyote killing machine. One of the best pets I ever had. The Mastiff in him would not allow for leaving him out just for the sole purpose of guarding the sheep. man I loved that dog.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 03:45 PM
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If you are going to try a donkey make sure you get a young female to put in with the goats. She needs to be raised with them to become part of the "herd". Put another one with her and they will tend to stay off by themselves. If you want a donkey(especially the miniatures) just make sure you(and any neighbors) are going to be happy with the sound effects at any time of the day or night.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 04:03 PM
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If you are going to try a donkey make sure you get a young female to put in with the goats. She needs to be raised with them to become part of the "herd". Put another one with her and they will tend to stay off by themselves. If you want a donkey(especially the miniatures) just make sure you(and any neighbors) are going to be happy with the sound effects at any time of the day or night. Thanks for the advice on a young female. I like the sound effects. I have one guinea who thinks she's a chicken.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 04:08 PM
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If you are going to try a donkey make sure you get a young female to put in with the goats. She needs to be raised with them to become part of the "herd". Put another one with her and they will tend to stay off by themselves. If you want a donkey(especially the miniatures) just make sure you(and any neighbors) are going to be happy with the sound effects at any time of the day or night. Thanks for the advice on a young female. I like the sound effects. I have one guinea who thinks she's a chicken. They are much louder than any guinea...I had them next to my house for 3 yrs on a ranch I managed. Also if you get one and have dogs as pets that run around with you or in that penned area, just be aware she could attack the dogs.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 05:19 PM
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^^True story. Donkeys and Pea foul disturb the peace, constantly.
But, I've seen some mean azz donkeys and horses towards dogs.
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 06:33 PM
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High tensile perimeter fence with charge, step in graphite post. Why pay for metal? Look up greg judy on YouTube. Installing metal fence is old news
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Re: fencing question
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02/02/20 10:04 PM
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High tensile perimeter fence with charge, step in graphite post. Why pay for metal? Look up greg judy on YouTube. Installing metal fence is old news Seen goats learn to challenge electric fence at high speed. Go fast enough and maybe you won't get shocked.
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Re: fencing question
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02/03/20 12:58 AM
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That's wrong, if you train them to it they wont do that . You're wrong.
Iv seen more men spend money on metal than I have a racing goat run through electric fence.
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Re: fencing question
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02/03/20 01:33 AM
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Well, I'm not wrong. Seen it with my own eyes many times, on my own land, with my own Boer goats.
Goes back to what my Ag teacher told me lomg ago. "If you can pitch a bucket of water through the fence, a goat can get out of it". It applies to hot wire, or hot twine, or hot ribbon. Non-climb is a mechanical stop, and 5' tall is very reliable. And especially for a goat, the grass is always greener on the other side. Let them think they're running short on browse or grazing, and they'll get out.
Only semi-successful training is cowboy in a can. Can full of feed rattling it to get them to come back to you. And that doesn't always work. Train and entire tribe to a hot wire only fence, that's a joke.
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Re: fencing question
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02/03/20 01:49 AM
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Again, you are wrong . Keep them in a pen and show them what hot wire is . I also have land and have seen it with my own eyes . You keep buying metal and stretching fence .
Have you ever been wrong?
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Re: fencing question
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02/03/20 02:00 AM
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Of course I have, but I'm not now.
Foliage grounds out the hot fence, fence is worthless. Tree limb falls on the hot fence, fence is worthless. Power goes out, fence is worthless.
5 foot of non-climb doesn't need electricity to work. I guess the ranchers all over the country that have steel fence for thousands of miles are all stupid and wrong according to you.
Go troll someone else.
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Re: fencing question
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02/03/20 03:39 AM
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If an electric fence didn't work at Jurassic Park it sure won't work on goats.
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Re: fencing question
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02/03/20 03:48 AM
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If an electric fence didn't work at Jurassic Park it sure won't work on goats.
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Re: fencing question
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02/03/20 04:05 AM
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You may want to look at statite and stay tuff. They both make a 1561 with horizontal strands closer together toward the bottom . Can also consider a 1348 and add one or two strands of bar on top.
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