Forums46
Topics538,021
Posts9,731,906
Members87,055
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
Crossing a muddy low water creek
#7622915
10/03/19 04:28 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,789
Mr. T.
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
|
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,789 |
I'm trying to spend very little money and put something across a 30 foot muddy creek. The creek gets very muddy and stays that way because of all the overhanging trees. I was wondering if I could lay down 4 cattle panels, two wide and two long to make a 8'X30 foot crossing. I only need to cross by pickup truck 4 times a year, tractor 4 times a year, but my SxS almost every weekend. Would the panels keep my tires from sinking in the mud and give me enough traction to cross? Thanks for any help, both pro and con.
Cabin rental in Pagosa Springs, Co. Sleeps 10, If interested please PM me.
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7622918
10/03/19 04:32 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
Navasot
Hollywood
|
Hollywood
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032 |
start laying cement bags like bricks... the very little money thing gona be tough though
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7622919
10/03/19 04:32 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
Navasot
Hollywood
|
Hollywood
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032 |
Your just gona slide on the panels
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7622925
10/03/19 04:35 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,358
bronco71
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,358 |
I don't think the panels can handle the weight of the tractor or the truck, will push them into the mud and break possibly causing flats.
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7622943
10/03/19 04:52 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 336
phathawg
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 336 |
Crushed concrete or brick?
There's only 2 seasons in a year. Deer season and getting ready for deer season.
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7622945
10/03/19 04:53 PM
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,498
TX_LT230FH
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,498 |
Spend 450$ and do it once. Load of rip-rap, use your tractor bucket and spread it out a little at a time. I've been working this load in for over a year and this spot used to be impassible. Now the bottom is solid and the creek never flows fast enough to move the rocks.
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Navasot]
#7622950
10/03/19 04:56 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 11,410
Choctaw
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 11,410 |
start laying cement bags like bricks... the very little money thing gona be tough though
I think this is a workable solution but as Navasot says it isn't without cost. I agree with Bronco that the weight of the vehicles may be a problem with panels. A friend of mine with a similar problem bought an old flatbed 36 foot gooseneck trailer and made a bridge out of it.
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: TX_LT230FH]
#7623015
10/03/19 06:00 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 5,166
flintknapper
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 5,166 |
Spend 450$ and do it once. Load of rip-rap, use your tractor bucket and spread it out a little at a time. I've been working this load in for over a year and this spot used to be impassible. Now the bottom is solid and the creek never flows fast enough to move the rocks. ^^^^^ Agree with this approach (provided flood waters are never severe enough to wash away large rock). Even IF the need to cross the creek is infrequent...the 'solution' should still be relatively permanent. The idea is to create a solid bottom. There will always be mud present owing to the area it is in, BUT you can create a 'bottom' to the creek that your tires can reach that will provide both traction and prevent you from sinking up to the differentials (or worse..the frame) of any vehicle you take over it. The trouble with creeks/drainages such as the OP cites...is that there just isn't any 'bottom' to them. The Rip-Rap (or similar) will solve that. You are still going to have some amount of mud on top of it. But most vehicles can negotiate 4"-8" of mud if something solid is underneath it. Adding Rip-Rap is also something that can be done incrementally. No need to lay out a large expenditure all at once if you can not afford to.
Last edited by flintknapper; 10/03/19 06:02 PM.
Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: phathawg]
#7623024
10/03/19 06:07 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
Navasot
Hollywood
|
Hollywood
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032 |
Crushed concrete or brick? Like cement bags still in the bag you just stack them side by side after a few rains it will be a solid platform... now if its a sandy bottom or silty it will most likely sink a bit but if there is a good bottom you should still be able to cut through to the bags
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7623079
10/03/19 07:03 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 20,951
Sniper John
gumshoe
|
gumshoe
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 20,951 |
Watch for free brick on places like craigslist. We were able to find a couple free loads last year to make a couple crossings on our hunting lease. We also added a couple small salvaged culverts to one of our crossings before dumping and spreading the broken brick on it. The end results looks similar to the ones flintknapper posted.
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Sniper John]
#7623083
10/03/19 07:11 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,695
krmitchell
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,695 |
Watch for free brick on places like craigslist. We were able to find a couple free loads last year to make a couple crossings on our hunting lease. We also added a couple small salvaged culverts to one of our crossings before dumping and spreading the broken brick on it. The end results looks similar to the ones flintknapper posted. I was thinking the same thing when I saw this on CL today. https://austin.craigslist.org/zip/d/giddings-free-privacy-fence-and-bricks/6991631330.html
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7623170
10/03/19 09:09 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,657
colt45-90
Texas colt45
|
Texas colt45
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,657 |
water flow will depend on what is best, fast moving water will move (what you think is unmovable objects) a lot of stuff, the cement bags might be the best cheapest in the long run
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Sniper John]
#7623261
10/03/19 10:59 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 43,923
Stub
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 43,923 |
Watch for free brick on places like craigslist. We were able to find a couple free loads last year to make a couple crossings on our hunting lease. We also added a couple small salvaged culverts to one of our crossings before dumping and spreading the broken brick on it. The end results looks similar to the ones flintknapper posted. Also Facebook Marketplace
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Navasot]
#7623582
10/04/19 11:13 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,045
David Maas
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,045 |
start laying cement bags like bricks... the very little money thing gona be tough though
This, proven to work and easy on everything except your back
NRA Endowed Patriot Life Benefactor GOA Life Member TSRA Life Member NSCA Life Member
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: David Maas]
#7623604
10/04/19 12:11 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,789
Mr. T.
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
|
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,789 |
start laying cement bags like bricks... the very little money thing gona be tough though
This, proven to work and easy on everything except your back I think this is what I am going to have to do. only thing is I'm 70 and have a bad back. Going to have to find some help to lift those 80lb bags.
Cabin rental in Pagosa Springs, Co. Sleeps 10, If interested please PM me.
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7623615
10/04/19 12:34 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,045
David Maas
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,045 |
start laying cement bags like bricks... the very little money thing gona be tough though
This, proven to work and easy on everything except your back I think this is what I am going to have to do. only thing is I'm 70 and have a bad back. Going to have to find some help to lift those 80lb bags. Help is readily available at any Home Depot any given day of the week, beer and tacos afterwards
NRA Endowed Patriot Life Benefactor GOA Life Member TSRA Life Member NSCA Life Member
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: David Maas]
#7623639
10/04/19 12:57 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,789
Mr. T.
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
|
OP
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,789 |
start laying cement bags like bricks... the very little money thing gona be tough though
This, proven to work and easy on everything except your back I think this is what I am going to have to do. only thing is I'm 70 and have a bad back. Going to have to find some help to lift those 80lb bags. Help is readily available at any Home Depot any given day of the week, beer and tacos afterwards Is this actually true? I've never seen anyone standing around where stuff is loaded up. I guess I could ask.
Cabin rental in Pagosa Springs, Co. Sleeps 10, If interested please PM me.
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7623667
10/04/19 01:21 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,933
unclebubba
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,933 |
If it is a place that you own and not lease, spend the money for a dump truck load of crushed concrete or rock. I would put down a lot more rock than TX_LT230FH did.
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7623730
10/04/19 02:38 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 19,134
TCM3
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 19,134 |
Crushed concrete or bricks. We put bricks at our creek crossing,
They have since washed away.
Do not forget to entertain strangers, For by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels Hebrews 13:2 (R-TX)
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7623753
10/04/19 03:03 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 444
HogBranch
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 444 |
I had one like that and I just picked up a few rocks each time I went that way and threw them out when I crossed. Took about a year but got a good bottom know.
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7623804
10/04/19 04:08 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 14,768
jeh7mmmag
gramps
|
gramps
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 14,768 |
Check with all your county commissioners and see if the have any old damage take out galvanized colverts. Then rent a backhoe to put them down.
�Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul.� ~ John Muir
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: unclebubba]
#7623951
10/04/19 07:28 PM
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,498
TX_LT230FH
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,498 |
If it is a place that you own and not lease, spend the money for a dump truck load of crushed concrete or rock. I would put down a lot more rock than TX_LT230FH did. You're seeing the "almost end" of the process. There's a whole dump truck load of rock in that hole- minus about 2 front end bucket loads remaining....
|
|
|
Re: Crossing a muddy low water creek
[Re: Mr. T.]
#7623961
10/04/19 07:38 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 60,296
stxranchman
Obie Juan Kenobi
|
Obie Juan Kenobi
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 60,296 |
start laying cement bags like bricks... the very little money thing gona be tough though
This, proven to work and easy on everything except your back I think this is what I am going to have to do. only thing is I'm 70 and have a bad back. Going to have to find some help to lift those 80lb bags. They make different size bags other than 80 lb. IIRC they make a 60 lb, 50 lb, and even a 40 lb depending on the brand. https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/fastsettingconcretemix.aspLowes carries them but have to order them in for you. https://www.lowes.com/pd/QUIKRETE-50-lb-Fast-Setting-Concrete-Mix/3006121
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|