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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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09/28/19 08:53 PM
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When she text her boyfriend "I f**ked up" she was right. She made multiple F-ups, one after another, but the last one pulling the trigger did it. You could probably count 10 F-ups.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/28/19 09:13 PM
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Lots of interesting opinions on this thread for sure.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/28/19 09:22 PM
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She is a blond, is that a legal defense?
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/28/19 09:22 PM
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She took de-escalation training. The article explains it, Stub. From her word she gave him commands, he moved, she reacted thinking she’s in her own crib According to the prosecutor, during testimony, her de-escalation training called for her to not enter the apartment and instead to call for help and find cover.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/28/19 09:26 PM
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She took de-escalation training. The article explains it, Stub. From her word she gave him commands, he moved, she reacted thinking she’s in her own crib According to the prosecutor, during testimony, her de-escalation training called for her to not enter the apartment and instead to call for help and find cover. That would make sense if she leaned that someone was in her apartment BEFORE she entered.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/28/19 09:41 PM
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She took de-escalation training. The article explains it, Stub. From her word she gave him commands, he moved, she reacted thinking she’s in her own crib According to the prosecutor, during testimony, her de-escalation training called for her to not enter the apartment and instead to call for help and find cover. That would make sense if she leaned that someone was in her apartment BEFORE she entered. She did. She heard him in there before she opened the door. "On Friday, Guyger reenacted what came next, when she went to open the apartment door. Standing at the front of the courtroom, she slung her backpack, her bulletproof vest and her lunchbox over one arm and pretended to pull her keys out of her pocket with the other. That’s when she said she first heard someone inside. She opened the door and said she saw a “silhouette figure” in the apartment. She drew her gun, she testified, and yelled, “Let me see your hands!” Jean responded by shouting, “Hey,” and walking quickly toward her, she said.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/28/19 09:52 PM
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Scattershooting:
I can easily see all the variance of opinions as to what she should be convicted of and/or the time she should serve. It’s a messy fact pattern with lots of twists.
I am having a harder time seeing how anyone could say she should walk - as if the totally innocent victim’s life meant nothing.
I really don’t see an argument for race playing it into one way or the other.
She did not make a good defendant. She should not have testified IMO.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
[Re: DocHorton]
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09/28/19 09:52 PM
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Thanks Doc. Man, too many F-ups for that gal, I feel sorry for her.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/28/19 09:55 PM
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Yeah, own up to your F up. That's how I see it.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/28/19 11:55 PM
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Sa is hard dropping the f. He'd go get a neck tat and plead guilty to murder 1.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 12:06 AM
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She took de-escalation training. The article explains it, Stub. From her word she gave him commands, he moved, she reacted thinking she’s in her own crib According to the prosecutor, during testimony, her de-escalation training called for her to not enter the apartment and instead to call for help and find cover. That would make sense if she leaned that someone was in her apartment BEFORE she entered. No one was in her apartment, not even her.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 12:14 AM
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My prediction is the jury will send out questions for the judge re: intent and what it means. Even though they will be given the Penal Code definition.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 12:19 AM
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Holy crap. My ex and kids are involved in a lawsuit (over two years ago and insurance related but not settled) with one of the witnesses who took the stand!!! Our attorney just sent picture from the newscast. Small world!! Let's just say they need to pay better attention to where they are at but it helps her I guess....
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 12:20 AM
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My prediction is the jury will send out questions for the judge re: intent and what it means. Even though they will be given the Penal Code definition. Yep, I'll bet they ask for definitions for knowingly and recklessly too.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 12:33 AM
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But the prosecution emphasized that Guyger could have retreated before she opened the door and even afterward. They said she could have backed off and used her police radio to call for help. Police headquarters is just blocks away from the apartment complex. Yeah, because Dallas PD has such a short response time. It’s like they think we just sit at the station waiting for something to happen, like firemen
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 12:41 AM
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But the prosecution emphasized that Guyger could have retreated before she opened the door and even afterward. They said she could have backed off and used her police radio to call for help. Police headquarters is just blocks away from the apartment complex. Yeah, because Dallas PD has such a short response time. It’s like they think we just sit at the station waiting for something to happen, like firemen
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 01:01 AM
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Aw, hell. She just made a mistake. Let her go. I mean, an innocent man lost his life, but that ain’t no reason to lock her up. She didn’t mean to. It’s okay.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 01:04 AM
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Aw, hell. She just made a mistake. Let her go. I mean, an innocent man lost his life, but that ain’t no reason to lock her up. She didn’t mean to. It’s okay. Lol, sarcasm I assume.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 01:08 AM
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 01:12 AM
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So if you run a stop sign and kill someone about you go to jail for murder?
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 01:17 AM
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So if you run a stop sign and kill someone about you go to jail for murder? Depending on the circumstances, you will do time. She will too.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 01:23 AM
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When I was 16 I killed a guy walking his broke down motorcycle down an fm road in Rockwall county. Thank goodness you hard mofos weren't on the grand jury.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 01:25 AM
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When I was 16 I killed a guy walking his broke down motorcycle down an fm road in Rockwall county. Thank goodness you hard mofos weren't on the grand jury. Sorry that happened. But that’s a whole lot different than this deal, or even running a stop sign and killing someone. That said, I highly doubt she will be convicted of murder.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 01:34 AM
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Re: Amber Guyger Trial Starts Today..
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09/29/19 01:42 AM
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When I was 16 I killed a guy walking his broke down motorcycle down an fm road in Rockwall county. Thank goodness you hard mofos weren't on the grand jury. Sorry that happened. But that’s a whole lot different than this deal, or even running a stop sign and killing someone. That said, I highly doubt she will be convicted of murder. Sorry to hear and can't imagine that. I just learned earlier this year my grandmother ran over a kid many years ago... But no kidding it is way different. She made a decision and used her gun. It was calculated based on bad info apparently in her head. As a juror what percentage do you give someone made a mistake or just being stupid regardless of what caused it. A mistake is all info added up to reality and you went ahead anyway. Being stupid is you acted carelessly and didnt take all precautions before making a decision... jmo... Castle Law and Stand Your Ground cannot be used as defense when you walk into the wrong place. Something has to give.
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