You are complaining about one of my friends on lease not pulling the trigger in 8 years because he doesn't want to?! He has enough on the wall. Wtf. That is the best kind of member, plus they bring extra beer.

You aren't calling out anything btw. Just complaining about nothing at this point.

Did you used to have another name???

Every lease is worth as much as someone wants to pay for it. Not everyone has to get their”moneys worth” to justify the price they pay. I lease and enjoy every part of it, not just about killing deer.

laid over, don't worry. Be happy.

It sucks that 99% of the land in our state is privately owned. So getcha some, or pay a landowner for access. Good whitetail country leases for $15/acre on the bottom end. You get to stay in a tent and carp in a bucket. Take it from there as far as what you want and are willing to pay. Just the facts, ma'am.

You don't have to spend $15 or more for a lease if you are willing to hunt east Texas. Crown Leasing currently has 25 tracts of timber company land up for bid right now with some starting as low as $6.50/acre.

Well, there you go. lo. Russ79, do those tracts come with blinds, feeders, lodging, electric, water, septic, or just hunting access? How large are the tracts?

laid over, don't worry. Be happy.

It sucks that 99% of the land in our state is privately owned. So getcha some, or pay a landowner for access. Good whitetail country leases for $15/acre on the bottom end. You get to stay in a tent and carp in a bucket. Take it from there as far as what you want and are willing to pay. Just the facts, ma'am.



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Wow I almost thought you had taken a stab at being cool.

It doesn't really matter at this point. I can't keep this up all night, ya'll have fun and don't stay up too late boys and girls.

Socialist hate landowners about like you do. They also wanna tell private property owners what hey can do, what they charge, etc. Y’all have a lot in common.

Let me explain how stupid your “trespass fee” is. If I as landowner & you as leassee agree to a deal that allows you to hunt, it’s a contract. If you are caught poaching on my land, there is no amount of money that you could offer me to get you out of legal trouble. It’s like saying that buying your wife dinner is a “rape fee”.

LOf’nL. Some citiot is gonna pick a bone with a large working ranch.

Didja ever think that maybe some of that income from their deer hunting operation covers lots of ranch expenses?

You are clueless. This is like a 40 year old virgin telling Ron Jeremy how to bang chicks.

Enjoy your free public hunting. It’s worth every penny.

All due respect but OP seems surprised he can’t find a unicorn.

Yeah you definitely need to re-read that.

The point is that the King Ranch deal is a good one and his lease was not.

The only "citiots" around here are the ones paying top dollar to sit in a stand.

You obviously feel threatened by my logic. If people come around to the truth I suppose you obviouslyhave something to lose.

I will enjoy my public hunting very much. Not exactly free but not spending thiusands to sit in a wood box a dozen times a year and hope for the best.

I bet you have been shooting deer in front of a feeder longer than I've been alive. How many times have you actually gone hunting?

To my critics- if you had ever actually been hunting once in your whole damn life, you'd understand why sitting in a stand will not work for me.

Have fun shooting deer by the feeder.

Laid-out* has never considered many things about hunting, like how many hunters have been successfully hunting for years, & don’t have to kill a buck every year to be happy. That concept is literally something Laid-out* cannot understand. He’s too focused on not spending an extra couple hundos.

Broke-dick complainers will never understand how much work & sweat most lease guys go thru to have a nice place to hunt. I bet I’ve done more this week to make improve my deer lease than Laid-out* ever has in his life. The only thing he beats me at is bellyaching.


*yes I know his name is laid-over, but I’m changing it to Laid-out. But only because the name Bellyacher has already been take.

And oooohhhh by the way, in case you missed it (some of you already did) it's not paying for the lease. It's restriction to a blind or two and nothing else.

The one good post about everything else that could come with the lease sounded great. Bit that is not reality.

If I ever posted a thread in the land and leases forum looking for that I would get flamed to death. As a matter of fact I did, and I that is what happened.

Some of yall are conpletely hopeless.

maximus_flavius I'll not stoop to your level.

I really gotta go to bed.

I swear

You just hate it that other people have something nice that you don’t have. You won’t spend the time, money or effort to have it, you’ll just bellyache about it.

Here’s a hint; myself & many landowners that I know wouldn’t give a [censored] if every deer hunter fell off the Earth tomorrow. Most of us don’t need hunters. It’s more for entertainment & deer herd management. I could shoot all the deer needed mysel, never have another person come to my place, & I’d be just fine. alot of landowners don’t want anyone hunting their land for any price, mostly because they might run into someone like you.

Txduckman:

You did not present that as him not wanting to pull the trigger. You presented it as an example of the difficulty to find legal deer.

Then you flip flopped.

Maximus- no comment

Youll never be anywhere near my level, & I’m mediocre at best.

I hope you don’t have delusions of adequacy.

Or


That is funny, I am avoiding a lease so I don't have to deal with people like you.

I give up. No rest tonight. Bring it on.

I already can't stand you and I've never met you.

I would not hunt your place if you invited me over for free. Or even if you paid me to come!

Sometimes I go back and read stuff and I have to wonfer if I am talking to a grown man?

Does this person talk to people like this in real life or only just on the internet.

Wtf is wrong with you maximus

laid over, you're right. I was trying to be cool for YOUR sake. Not stabbing at it. No hill for me b/c I'm typically pretty mellow.

Unfortunate that you couldn't accept an olive branch.

I'm finished here. Best of luck!

So now I gotta pay you to hunt my place? That’s a bold strategy, Cotton.

I really wish you would, sometime in your life, splurge a little bit & get on a good lease. You would never hunt public land again. It’s too bad you couldn’t take a more modest approach here & perhaps an experienced hunter or landowner would have taken you under their wing. Of course your entire attitude of “trespass fees” & “greedy landowners” is very offputting & insulting, but if you could get away from that thinking (or at least keep your mouth shut), you might get somewhere.

I mean, you would also quit doin stupid stuff like shooting pigeons & piddling stuff. It annoys the other lease members & landowners.

Try taking deer hunting a little more serious, & life a little less serious. Don’t worry about spending a little extra $. Get on a good lease. Live a little. Put some sweat equity into a lease & try to make something. Make every season a little better than the one before.

So all the personal insults and etc aside, I am coming back to this:





A spot like that, where you have permission to spot and stalk, is as rare as hen's teeth- as some of you fellows have already pointed out. It's a word of mouth deal and you either gotta know somebody or own the property outright, yes?

What would that cost?

I don't think I am asking much.

I want a place where I can camp with my family, hunt small game, and catch fish like these and reasonably expect to find deer like this within a couple of hunts:

Now if thatis gonna cost me ballpark of $10,000 a year, well, all of this came from public land. Cost me about a hundred dollars a year for this kind of fishing and hunting, without driving more than two hours.

Maybe you are right.

The sad thing is I just love shooting pigeons. And I love pellet guns like a fat kid loves cake.

they continue to go up every year as they should. every year there are less places especially quality places to hunt, and as many or more people hunting most areas. land values and taxes go up every year, why shouldn't lease prices?