Friday I was trying varius ammo. Wind was blowing 15-20 from 2 oclock to 8 oclock. S&K Standard+ still shot best but groups were .500"-.775". Is that to be expected and accepted as good enough? Shot 9-5 shot groups and the average was .635". Ruger Precision Rimfire with 4.5 x 18 AR Optic scope. Thanks

Well, that is a lot of wind for 22lr. SK ammo is not among my ammo picks.

That said, at fifty, with less than 10mph wind, shooting Wolf MT, my 10/22 will shoot sub MOA (less than 1/2”) easily. Will your gun consistently shoot single hole at 25 yards? Mine will.

At 50 yards 15 mph, 2:00 wind will will move CCI SV’s 2.8 inches, 3.7 inches with a 20 mph wind. If the wind was varying that much it would definitely come into play. When I’m trying out ammo I go to the indoor ‘tube’ at Bass Pro.

At 25 in a bit lighter wind it will. Back in February with almost no wind it shot less than .375" at 50 yards with that ammo and CCI SV was 2nd at .430". Those were the average of 6-5 shot groups. I know it will never be a CZ or an Annie and I havent had groups worth a crap with 3 different Eley ammo. Really, im glad about that cause i caint afford $19 for 50 rounds. At 100 yards though, in 10-15 mph winds, 1.75" is the best i got with the SK or CCI.

I started where I was from last session with .5 mils and had to go to .9 mills and still hit just left of dead center. Left it there for all ammo tests. H,V stuff flat out sucked.

Cast, from Waco to Waxahachie I have not found anyone who sells any of the Wolf ammo. Do you know anyone online that sells it by the box? All I have seen, you have to buy a brick. I thought SWFA would have it since they have a variety of higher dollar 22LR ammo but they dont offer that? One more thing, if i order a brick, would you go with the one made in England or Germany?
Re-read your post. I am assuming this is what you prefer? https://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf...t-40-grain-lead-solid-ammo-made-lapua-ge

SGammo.com

Just an FYI though my buddy bought a brick before the 22LR match and it was the Lapua made stuff, he just bought a new brick and it is now made by Eley.


the Eley stuff didn't shoot as good as the Lapua IMO. Still a 1" ragged hole 10 shot group at 50 though.

That is not exactly what I meant. I mean one hole at .22”.

Funny story. Not long ago, I was setup on my BR setup at the 25 yard range on NTSA. My wife was to my right with a scope watching the target. First round, bullseye. She said ‘bullseye!’ I have a good scope, I can see better that her so I knew the rifle and I were on target. Second round, same hole. She says ‘Missed!’. Third round, same hole. Missed again she says. I grin and tell her to watch the little hole closely, especially at about ten o’clock. I nudged over and sent round four. Then I hear ‘Hey the hole got a little bigger on the top left side!’.

Ok, so anyhow, that day and other days my old 10/22 (I said old, not plain old) put a full 10 round mag through a single .22” hole at 25 yards. I really consider that nothing special. It is my benchmark to see if a 22lr is shooting well.

I am not really bragging. If you are shooting MOA you should expect these results at 25 yards. After all MOA at 25 is 1/4” or .25”. Right? Right.

Get your rifle MOA at 25, then try 50. You need 1/2”/.5” to be MOA at 50.

Now, when I move to 100, the cussing starts. Everything but my Win 52 starts me cussing. But I am building a new gun that should clean up my 100 yard language.

S&G is where I get my ammo mainly. I see where they offer both, one made by Eley in England called Match Plus and the other German by Lapua called Match Target. Guess I have to contact them to make sure.

That .375" was at 50 yards. Best 25 yard group center to center was .220, cloverleaf like. Never seen a group where you couldnt distinguish bullets and I have seen an .065 5 shot group at 25 yards from a guy shooting an Annie and could still see the radius's of 3 bullets.

Both are out of stock and I don't think Lapua is making Wolf Match anymore so I don't think it'll be coming back in stock. Don't quote me on it though.

Well, crap, lol. I didnt notice that. Thanks

I just bought a case of Wolf ME. That is a step above Wolf MT. It is made by Eley in Britain. I still have a brick or two of Lapua ME and it shoots better than my Wolf MT Lapua. I am not scared of Eley made Wolf. I shot Wolf when it was Wolf, then Lapua, and now Eley.

Anyhow as I shopped for best price ($699 a case) I noticed a lot of MT cases at great prices. Just google ‘Wolf MT case’ and go down the list. If they have cases they have bricks. It is not hard to find but online is your best shot. Only at Alpine have I seen Wolf on the shelf and I bought it all on the spot. That said, CCI Green Tag is damn near as good as MT. But season your barrel with MT first.

Dang I just looked again. You are looking for boxes not bricks. That simply will not do. You need to run a few boxes through to season it before it will start to shoot right.

If you come see me I will fix you up with MT. Just enough to get you hooked. I am still burning through my last two cases of Lapua made MT. Lapua or Eley? Lapua MT is a proven product. Eley is most likely just the same. It is the Vitavouri (sp) powder making the difference I believe.

Thanks for that info. Is that Wolf wax coated or is it oily like SK? Havent been to Alpine I bet in 25 years but have been wanting to go for other reasons. Didnt think about them maybe having it.

That powder smells funny, i commented this weekend when we were shooting it.

Cast,

Lapua makes Viht powders, so presumably Viht powders are in Lapua ammo.

If Wolf now is just rebranded Lapua or Eley ammo, are there Lapua or Eley branded ammos that are the same?

Here is a brick for you.

$6.50 a box. Not bad.

Not bad at all. Thanks.

Oh man, do not start me to lying. I shoot almost entirely Wolf MT. That is the reason for my consistency. I have some remarkable precision ammo on hand. Talking the $25 a box ammo. I am not going to plink with that, you can not get more of it.

It is not simply rebranded ammo, it is a new ammo recipe they bought and will manufacture it themselves now. The transition from Wolf to Lapua was seamless and I expect no different from Eley. I suspect they were losing market share to it so they bought it. Hope so anyhow.

Eley Tenex is their lesser match ammo. I have a bit of it, enough to shoot. It groups better than MT, but at twice the price. This new Wolf MT fills the gap with a reasonable precision ammo at a reasonable price.

We have found the Federal Game Shok 22LR to be very clean, good shooting with minimal misfires, and they chrono right at their 1250-1270 fps very consistently. Nice and accurate in our various rifles, out to 200 yards. Have to break down and clean the rifles 2-3 times a day!!! The extra $5 per brick isn't too bad.

Depending how soon our snow goes off the alfalfa fields, we average about 1500-2000 rounds per person, per day. We shoot the entire month of May on ground squirrels, and shoot about 10K rounds per person total.

Sk ammo and wolf used to be both made by Lapua same everything up until few years ago. Wolf is now made by Eley and SK still by Lapua. SK standard plus is some great stuff, just rebranded lower tier Lapua.

I've been frustrated with 22 stuff as well. When you're used to accurate bolt action centerfire rifles, 22s can be hard to tolerate.

My 10/22 has been very accurate since I put the Green Mountain barrel on there. .3"-.5" at 50 yards pretty consistently with CCI SV. I am having to switch ammo though, because apparently CCI SV has some property that makes it form carbon ring in the throat quicker/easier, and I need to find something that won't go inaccurate after 75 rounds. So I've got a pile of SK and Eley sitting in the safe that just got here today. Going to test out soon.

Did you witness the carbon ring or just read about it on the internet......?

It went from shooting .3-.5 to shooting 1" groups. I got a bunch of PMs on RFC saying that's what it was and how to deal with it (basically scrubbing the crap out of the chamber with Hoppes & Kroil and a 243 brush, and then it went back to shooting .3-.5. So no I didn't see it because I don't have a bore scope and 22 chambers are tiny. But I believe the guy who fixed the problem.