was waiting for this

7mm rem mag

6.5 Creedmoor
30-06
7-08

Creedmoor checks most boxes, especially with factory ammo. Reloading, 7-08 jumps to numero uno.

22 Hornet.
Good to 1200 yards when using the bipod I fashioned out of Indian corn.

Factory ammo would be hard to find for the top two.

Yep. That's why a 284 Win wouldn't be my #1 choice. Other than that, I love everything about it.

308. Capable of all your requirements.

Yea my previous 300 Black Out was a joke. 308WIN would be my pick.

I'll go 308 every time but I would remove the 1200 long rage requirement and replace with availability and supply chain for a SHTF situation.

Okay, I'll play....

.30-06

I used to be a died in the wool .308 man, but the 6.5 Creed won me over. It�s my one do-all cartridge for Texas and anything in the lower 48. Long range? Uh yeah. Lower recoil than .308 and while there are less components they are still easy to find and a good selection of factory ammo with new selections all the time.

300 Win Mag for me.

Had a 30-378 Weatherby for awhile but $100 per box for ammo takes a lot of the fun out of that caliber. If not for ammo cost that would be my pick.

6.5 Creed. I didn't think a 308 would reach 1200 yards.

Probably 30/06

Really? Just don�t have much experience or?
6.5 Creed in a 20� barrel. Covers all your scenarios in one rifle and caliber.

Probably shoulda went back and got his quote instead of cutting mine off, but thanks anyway.

My turn to drink beer and [censored].

The creedmoor is a target round plain and simple. Don't be a sucker.

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/6.5x55.html

"Military 6.5x55 ammunition was loaded to a pressure of 3200 ATM which converts to 47008psi. Proof loads developed between 4000 and 4500 ATM which converted (x14.69) give pressures of between 58,760psi and 66,000psi. The original m/94 military load featured a 10.1 gram (156 grain) round nosed bullet which achieved 725m/s (2378fps) in the 29" barreled m/96 rifle, 700m/s (2297fps) in the 24" m/38 rifle and 655m/s (2149fps) in the original 18.5" m/94 carbine. The first pointed bullets were tested between 1910 and 1920 in experimental rifles, the final load appeared in the M/41 sniper rifle and used a 9 gram (139 grain) pointed bullet. This load quickly proved itself superior to the former and in 1944, the 9 gram load replaced all of the previous M94 designated ammunition. The M/41 load achieved 793 m/s (2601fps) in the 29" M/96 barrel, 768 m/s (2519fps) in the 24" m/38 barrel and 730 m/s (2395fps) in the18.5" M/94."

Not sure what it^^ will do with powders of today. Probably much better. Either way, it has always been touted as a good cartridge.

And then...

6.5 Creedmoor, 24" barrel,
140 gr bullet
2780 fps MV

6.5 Creedmoor, 20" barrel
140 gr bullet
2700 fps MV

6.5 PRC

With today�s modern powders it�ll do 2800 with a 140 and a 22.4� barrel. But it�s still doing it in a long action instead of short. It may do more but I haven�t tested further. Zero pressure signs at that velocity.

This is too much fun.

You're welcome, by the way

Good to know. Thank you.

Trying to stomp out ignorance. But you are resisting.

I'm being ignorant?

Good luck stomping me out "friend". But I don't fall for the internet tough talk.

Kinda dissappointed in you. I thought you were above that.

But seriously, you really believe the creedmore is that great and everything else is going "out of style" or some nonsense like that. I know that is not what you think, but one could quickly come to that conclusion reading several things you've posted.


Now let's really think about this. You think everybody is just gonna say oh heck ill just give up everything and shoot the creedmore because ot's good for 1200 yards.

Nato cartridges, 30/06 and anything else /06 will never die. Creedmore will, unless it is adopted as the next NATO round.

Heck JG, you just told us your favorite all around is the 7/08. Let that creedmore stuff go. In a few years it will be like .280 Remington and .280 AI.

Hey my next rifle will be a 280ai. Maybe. I�m almost as bad as buzz.