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Re: Low "T"?
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01/26/22 09:18 PM
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Yes I have been irritable. And not sleeping as much. I don’t know that I feel much different than before as far as better except I’m less tired. High test means high Estrogen. Need a prescription estrogen blocker or order some DIM(vitamin) and take it everyday day (100-300mg) I take estrogen blocker 12 hours after every shot
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Re: Low "T"?
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01/27/22 12:00 AM
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Yes I have been irritable. And not sleeping as much. I don’t know that I feel much different than before as far as better except I’m less tired. High test means high Estrogen. Need a prescription estrogen blocker or order some DIM(vitamin) and take it everyday day (100-300mg) I take estrogen blocker 12 hours after every shot Your t is real high so esto will be also, may not be enough. Blood work will tell all
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Re: Low "T"?
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01/27/22 01:52 PM
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I am about to turn 50 and have a physical this will be my first t test …if I’m low and need supplemental , which is preferred? Shot , cream, under the skin thing ?
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Re: Low "T"?
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01/27/22 02:11 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I am about to turn 50 and have a physical this will be my first t test …if I’m low and need supplemental , which is preferred? Shot , cream, under the skin thing ? Shot on an every 4th day cycle. Done 7 and 14. 4th is best option to keep things consistent
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Re: Low "T"?
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01/27/22 03:13 PM
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I like the convenience and low cost of the gel. Shots will not give you constant levels.
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Re: Low "T"?
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01/27/22 03:37 PM
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When I turned 30, I seemed to recall something like "Flirty 30" and 40 was "Lordy lordy, he's 40". 50 was "Nifty 50" or something. I'll turn 60 in Sept and all I can think of is "F**k, I'm 60". I don't ever recall a T measurement until 3-4 years ago when I commented on feeling run down. My GP was always against any T modification therapy for some reason and wanted to punt the discussion to my Urologist. The GP retired last year. Per the Uro, I have an exceptional sized Prostate, but for the most part, don't really have any issues from it. I think I was down to 175 or close to it for a T level, Uro started me on Clomiphene and did tell me it would run out per se over time. I've gone from 700-800 when started, down to 300 or so I believe, so I'll need to make a next step decision before too long. PSA is like 1.8 and been pretty consistent there. Bobo, I'm not sure I'm following... You're doing a shot every 4 days? What's the 7 & 14? Charlie
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: CharlieCTx]
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01/27/22 07:20 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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When I turned 30, I seemed to recall something like "Flirty 30" and 40 was "Lordy lordy, he's 40". 50 was "Nifty 50" or something. I'll turn 60 in Sept and all I can think of is "F**k, I'm 60". I don't ever recall a T measurement until 3-4 years ago when I commented on feeling run down. My GP was always against any T modification therapy for some reason and wanted to punt the discussion to my Urologist. The GP retired last year. Per the Uro, I have an exceptional sized Prostate, but for the most part, don't really have any issues from it. I think I was down to 175 or close to it for a T level, Uro started me on Clomiphene and did tell me it would run out per se over time. I've gone from 700-800 when started, down to 300 or so I believe, so I'll need to make a next step decision before too long. PSA is like 1.8 and been pretty consistent there. Bobo, I'm not sure I'm following... You're doing a shot every 4 days? What's the 7 & 14? Charlie Yes, I'm on a shot every forth day(self inject at home). I've done gel, and shot calculated intervals of 4, 7 and 14 days Been on TRT for about 6 years and have very extensive blood work to show consistency of each method. Gel consistency is similar to Pellet. It’s consistent but at a lower level/utilization. It’s a Waste of my time The most consistent with normal range of T and Free T for me has been a shot every 4th day. I havent had to adjust dosage in a year and a half. I’m pretty level At 850 by fourth day I don’t recommend 14 day intervals to any one as it’s a pretty big crash day 9-10, 7 is ok, but forth is very consistent and I’m also not getting many if any estro spikes I did the clomid when we decided on second child. It’s not same class as compared to T shots
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Re: Low "T"?
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04/12/22 09:14 PM
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When I turned 30, I seemed to recall something like "Flirty 30" and 40 was "Lordy lordy, he's 40". 50 was "Nifty 50" or something. I'll turn 60 in Sept and all I can think of is "F**k, I'm 60". I don't ever recall a T measurement until 3-4 years ago when I commented on feeling run down. My GP was always against any T modification therapy for some reason and wanted to punt the discussion to my Urologist. The GP retired last year. Per the Uro, I have an exceptional sized Prostate, but for the most part, don't really have any issues from it. I think I was down to 175 or close to it for a T level, Uro started me on Clomiphene and did tell me it would run out per se over time. I've gone from 700-800 when started, down to 300 or so I believe, so I'll need to make a next step decision before too long. PSA is like 1.8 and been pretty consistent there. Bobo, I'm not sure I'm following... You're doing a shot every 4 days? What's the 7 & 14? Charlie Yes, I'm on a shot every forth day(self inject at home). I've done gel, and shot calculated intervals of 4, 7 and 14 days Been on TRT for about 6 years and have very extensive blood work to show consistency of each method. Gel consistency is similar to Pellet. It’s consistent but at a lower level/utilization. It’s a Waste of my time The most consistent with normal range of T and Free T for me has been a shot every 4th day. I havent had to adjust dosage in a year and a half. I’m pretty level At 850 by fourth day I don’t recommend 14 day intervals to any one as it’s a pretty big crash day 9-10, 7 is ok, but forth is very consistent and I’m also not getting many if any estro spikes I did the clomid when we decided on second child. It’s not same class as compared to T shots This right here ^^^ highly recommend doing the closer interval shots. Even on 7 day schedule you can feel a big bump the first couple days and then the lag when you're close to your next shot. Doing it on a shorter interval (more frequent shots) mimics your body's natural test production more closely. I haven't had any issues with high Estrogen levels (*knock on wood*) with the shorter interval. Even to the people that are skeptical it can't hurt to go in and get a full blood panel just to see where you are.
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Re: Low "T"?
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04/13/22 02:00 AM
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Cialis and the other one felt like they hurt my vision with each dose and it's been permanent. I got the low T, I think losing weight might help it. We'll see. It went up from 270 to 430 after losing 70lbs
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Re: Low "T"?
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06/14/22 07:25 AM
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Testosterone is a miracle drug. They have been experimenting with it for darn near a hundred years now. Due to steroid abuse by pro athletes and bodybuilders it was maligned by the public and the media, so f* the science. Until now!
Testosterone literally makes you harder to kill. Makes you heal faster. Gives you more energy. Increases bone density. Improves your memory and cognitive function.
There are also certain types of cancer that are fueled by testosterone. I think the benefits justify the risks.
The only thing holding me back from testing and going on T is my job. With my work schedule (trucker) it is pretty well impossible for me to get in to see the doctor as regularly as it takes. It’s too highly regulated and supervised, just not a realistic thing for me to do right now.
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Re: Low "T"?
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06/14/22 10:49 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Testosterone is a miracle drug. They have been experimenting with it for darn near a hundred years now. Due to steroid abuse by pro athletes and bodybuilders it was maligned by the public and the media, so f* the science. Until now!
Testosterone literally makes you harder to kill. Makes you heal faster. Gives you more energy. Increases bone density. Improves your memory and cognitive function.
There are also certain types of cancer that are fueled by testosterone. I think the benefits justify the risks.
The only thing holding me back from testing and going on T is my job. With my work schedule (trucker) it is pretty well impossible for me to get in to see the doctor as regularly as it takes. It’s too highly regulated and supervised, just not a realistic thing for me to do right now. You can do at home shipped. A lot of companies do 30 day supply, then auto ship from injection history via their app
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Re: Low "T"?
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06/14/22 12:57 PM
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FYI, went to a different doctor who monitors better. First visit his words when I asked what my T currently was: “undetectably high, my friend”. He cut my dosage back and I feel 100% better. Less horny though lmao
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Re: Low "T"?
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06/14/22 04:30 PM
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FYI, went to a different doctor who monitors better. First visit his words when I asked what my T currently was: “undetectably high, my friend”. He cut my dosage back and I feel 100% better. Less horny though lmao How often do you take now ? Weekly ?
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Re: Low "T"?
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07/13/22 12:28 PM
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Cialis and the other one felt like they hurt my vision with each dose and it's been permanent. I got the low T, I think losing weight might help it. We'll see. It went up from 270 to 430 after losing 70lbs How did you lose the weight?
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Re: Low "T"?
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07/13/22 05:58 PM
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Cialis and the other one felt like they hurt my vision with each dose and it's been permanent. I got the low T, I think losing weight might help it. We'll see. It went up from 270 to 430 after losing 70lbs How did you lose the weight? Basically, I started at 1900 calories a day measured to the gram and walked a mile. Worked my way down to 1200 calories a day and walking 3 miles, felt like crap. Went back up to 1600 calories a day and 3 miles for several months felt good. Now I'm at 1900 calories a day and 3 miles. Oh I've lost 100 lbs now from my heaviest (285, but a few months before the start of the diet). I weighed in at 179 this morning. 175 is about as light as i want to go. Started the diet at 265. Going to up the calories to 2150 when I hit 175.
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Re: Low "T"?
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Cialis and the other one felt like they hurt my vision with each dose and it's been permanent. I got the low T, I think losing weight might help it. We'll see. It went up from 270 to 430 after losing 70lbs How did you lose the weight? Basically, I started at 1900 calories a day measured to the gram and walked a mile. Worked my way down to 1200 calories a day and walking 3 miles, felt like crap. Went back up to 1600 calories a day and 3 miles for several months felt good. Now I'm at 1900 calories a day and 3 miles. Oh I've lost 100 lbs now from my heaviest (285, but a few months before the start of the diet). I weighed in at 179 this morning. 175 is about as light as i want to go. Started the diet at 265. Going to up the calories to 2150 when I hit 175. Curious....typical meal(s)?
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Re: Low "T"?
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07/14/22 09:35 PM
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Curious....typical meal(s)?
"Shakeys lasagna" has the same calories and protein as my homemade, so i just use it instead as a place holder.
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Re: Low "T"?
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07/17/22 05:04 PM
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FYI, went to a different doctor who monitors better. First visit his words when I asked what my T currently was: “undetectably high, my friend”. He cut my dosage back and I feel 100% better. Less horny though lmao How often do you take now ? Weekly ? Sorry for the late reply. Still weekly but went from 1 to 0.8 ml
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Re: Low "T"?
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07/17/22 06:39 PM
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Start low and work your way up. Don't start high and work your way down. I too got too much and it really made me feel awful. That's why I wouldn't do the pellets. Once they are there you can't get them out. I started haveing kidney issues shortly after the overdose. I still believe too much T was the cause. There's a place for it but be careful how you approach it. There are a lot of doctors out there that will just throw it at you without safely monitoring the other effects it has.
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Re: Low "T"?
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07/20/22 03:11 PM
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Been on the gel for years. Thought I wanted off it so I let my prescription run out. Felt like crap ever since...absolutely no energy. I have a new prescription processing now.
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Re: Low "T"?
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Dont forget your hemotocrit levels.
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Re: Low "T"?
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08/18/22 07:42 PM
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Been back on the juice for almost a month now. Feel better but maybe still a bit low. I'll get tested in the next 2 weeks.
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Re: Low "T"?
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08/18/22 07:43 PM
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Dont forget your hemotocrit levels. I give blood regularly. That helps. This was a good reminder. Now giving blood as I type.
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Re: Low "T"?
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08/19/22 05:10 PM
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I didn't read the whole thread so forgive me if I am restating the obvious. I started TRT about three years ago. It was amazing, It improved my focus, clarity, and sex drive. It is the best thing I have ever done. I think it is cheap I would pay ten times what it costs after seeing the benefits. I am sure this is TMI (too much information) but since starting TRT I wake up every day with a boner. This hasn't happened since I was in my early 20's. The wife loves it and I feel like a rock star.
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Re: Low "T"?
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09/19/22 02:03 PM
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Curious - did yall go to your regular doctor? Or one of the mens health / TRT clinics?
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