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Cons of stand and fill feeders #7409187 01/20/19 12:53 AM
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The down side I see is you’re blocked from shooting a deer standing in front or behind the feeder. Anyone have others?

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- If the control unit is real low it’s sometimes gets real muddy there and is a pain to reach.

- you’ll want to buy more after the first

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- you’ll want to buy more after the first


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Originally Posted by bigjoe8565
The down side I see is you’re blocked from shooting a deer standing in front or behind the feeder. Anyone have others?


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Originally Posted by bigjoe8565
The down side I see is you’re blocked from shooting a deer standing in front or behind the feeder. Anyone have others?


Hasn't been an issue with mine.


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Some stand and fill feeders don't have the "varmint plate". On those much of the corn is going to be right below the feeder opposed to spread out.

Re: Cons of stand and fill feeders [Re: bigjoe8565] #7418244 01/29/19 08:25 PM
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I would not buy anything other than a stand and fill.

I would not buy anything with a outdated varmit cage that knocks half your corn down in a pile right next to and under the feeder.

Not hard to make sure the deer cleared the feeder where I hunt.


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Re: Cons of stand and fill feeders [Re: Pitchfork Predator] #7435574 02/16/19 11:11 AM
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You can now get the new models without a cage from ASF i just seen on the new feeder they just launched. 600 monolith S&F https://www.allseasonsfeeders.com/products/600lb-monolith

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BigPig, I don't have a stand and fill or even one on skids but the base looks narrow. You don't have any issues with the hogs tipping it over on its side? Just wondering because I am looking at building one, already have the barrel and motor.


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BigPig, I don't have a stand and fill or even one on skids but the base looks narrow. You don't have any issues with the hogs tipping it over on its side? Just wondering because I am looking at building one, already have the barrel and motor.


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The Capsule brand feeders utilized an auger system to get corn up to the thrower. If the corn you bought had any dust in it, over time that dust would collect at the bottom and clog up the auger. You'd of course only conveniently find this out when the feeder had hundreds of pounds of corn in it. So I'd recommend staying away from that brand.

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Originally Posted by TKandMike
The Capsule brand feeders utilized an auger system to get corn up to the thrower. If the corn you bought had any dust in it, over time that dust would collect at the bottom and clog up the auger. You'd of course only conveniently find this out when the feeder had hundreds of pounds of corn in it. So I'd recommend staying away from that brand.


The Capsules don't like dust- that's true. I have one that's been running 7 years and the coons have given up long ago, It saves me so much corn it's worth every penny. I do pour the corn into the feeder using a hardware cloth screen so the dust falls out.


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Originally Posted by TX_LT230FH
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The Capsule brand feeders utilized an auger system to get corn up to the thrower. If the corn you bought had any dust in it, over time that dust would collect at the bottom and clog up the auger. You'd of course only conveniently find this out when the feeder had hundreds of pounds of corn in it. So I'd recommend staying away from that brand.


The Capsules don't like dust- that's true. I have one that's been running 7 years and the coons have given up long ago, It saves me so much corn it's worth every penny. I do pour the corn into the feeder using a hardware cloth screen so the dust falls out.

So the screen captures most of the dust and lets the corn through?


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The Capsule brand feeders utilized an auger system to get corn up to the thrower. If the corn you bought had any dust in it, over time that dust would collect at the bottom and clog up the auger. You'd of course only conveniently find this out when the feeder had hundreds of pounds of corn in it. So I'd recommend staying away from that brand.


The Capsules don't like dust- that's true. I have one that's been running 7 years and the coons have given up long ago, It saves me so much corn it's worth every penny. I do pour the corn into the feeder using a hardware cloth screen so the dust falls out.

So the screen captures most of the dust and lets the corn through?


Wondering the same?

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1 of my 4 feeders is a capsule. Got a good price on it and liked the idea of not having to worry about it being empty. Mine holds 1000 lbs.

That said... it had to be modified to ensure it consistently threw corn when dust built up. Their later generations have the modification made already. Mine was an earlier model before they started offering metal covers where you pour in the corn. The modification involves cutting out some of the pipe surrounding the auger on the bottom. It's been running like a champ since the modification. I don't use a screen to filter the corn, but I will keep an eye on the dust level when it gets low. The corn I get from the local feed store is fairly clean so I'm not too worried about the dust.

Apart from the possible dust issue - it's a solid feeder. Very easy to fill, holds a ton of corn, and I like how far the corn throws. It's a bit noisy when spinning, but not enough I think to make a difference. Bit odd looking, but I like that it isn't very tall. Great to put in areas within view of public roads. Much harder to see that traditional feeders.

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I have a cannon feeder. It is completely varmint proof and shoots the corn out away from the feeder up to 40 yards. Also there is no mud hole around your feeder that you would have to track through to fill your feeder.

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Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
I would not buy anything other than a stand and fill.

I would not buy anything with a outdated varmit cage that knocks half your corn down in a pile right next to and under the feeder.

Not hard to make sure the deer cleared the feeder where I hunt.


I have all seasons stand and fills that knock some corn under the feeder but I’ve never known the deer to care. Even had some kneeling down like a lamb to get to the corn. Just my experiences.

OP I just sold my last three hang me high winch up feeders and have replaced everything with all seasons stand and fills. I won’t got back to anything else. Keep in mind any feeder can block your shot on an animal. Just shoot them on the way to it if you are worried about it. FWIW I’ve had at least 11 deer in one game camera picture around my 600lb stand and fill so clearly it works.

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Bucks will dominate the piled up corn and prevent other deer from feeding IME. With varmit plates instead of a cage the corn is spread out evenly allowing multiple deer to feed without dominating piled up corn. All seasons is changing there out dated design to varmit plates just like Lamco did.


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Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
Bucks will dominate the piled up corn and prevent other deer from feeding IME. With varmit plates instead of a cage the corn is spread out evenly allowing multiple deer to feed without dominating piled up corn. All seasons is changing there out dated design to varmit plates just like Lamco did.


Yeah - I have 3 crank down feeders and 1 stand/fill. One major problem is the amount of traffic underneath the crank down feeders causes massive mud pits. This is mainly due to the varmint guards causing a considerable amount of corn to drop right underneath the feeder. Need to rethink the use of varmint cages and see if I can find something that evenly throws the corn out.

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On a crank feeder, you could remove the varmit cage and add the disc sandwich that PP was referring to. Galvanized tin, jigsaw with a metal cutting blade and maybe 4-6 2-2.5" screws around the perimeter acting as a spacer and you're in business.

I've thought about doing the same and removing the cages on my All Seasons S&F, but then I wake up...


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The Capsule brand feeders utilized an auger system to get corn up to the thrower. If the corn you bought had any dust in it, over time that dust would collect at the bottom and clog up the auger. You'd of course only conveniently find this out when the feeder had hundreds of pounds of corn in it. So I'd recommend staying away from that brand.


The Capsules don't like dust- that's true. I have one that's been running 7 years and the coons have given up long ago, It saves me so much corn it's worth every penny. I do pour the corn into the feeder using a hardware cloth screen so the dust falls out.

So the screen captures most of the dust and lets the corn through?


Wondering the same?


I formed a "tube" out of the hardware cloth and pour the corn into it to load the feeder. Almost all of the dust and small pieces fall out through the screen and the whole corn goes in the feeder. It has helped immensely.
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Originally Posted by TX_LT230FH


I formed a "tube" out of the hardware cloth and pour the corn into it to load the feeder. Almost all of the dust and small pieces fall out through the screen and the whole corn goes in the feeder. It has helped immensely.
'Here's some pics of the screen. The video disappeared.......
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Interesting! I haven't had a problem yet with dust, but I'd be willing to make something like that to avoid any potential problems. Very nicely done!

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Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
Bucks will dominate the piled up corn and prevent other deer from feeding IME. With varmit plates instead of a cage the corn is spread out evenly allowing multiple deer to feed without dominating piled up corn. All seasons is changing there out dated design to varmit plates just like Lamco did.


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