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Re: Red wolf hybrids [Re: Texas Dan] #7420475 01/31/19 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
I too have seen coyotes that appeared larger than normal and with red-tinted hair. IMO, the normal coyote in East Texas is thin and gray.

Agree. Most are scrawny but some more red than others. Saw one early morning going to stand that was big, looked like a German Shepard, the size anyway. Too dark to comment on color.

Re: Red wolf hybrids [Re: SnakeWrangler] #7420495 01/31/19 06:08 PM
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I saw that article. On the one hand there’s a side of me that’s excited but on the other hand the paranoid side of me questions if this could be an attempt to stop coyote hunting. eek2


Some truth probably to that. But it’s hard to give a hybrid ESA protections


My thoughts too


They will damn sure try though. Reason why they re-classified the Canadian wolf that was introduced into Yellowstone. They change it to same sub species and ruled body size difference as Bergmann’s rule, so they could introduce

The anti’s damn sure figured out how to go after hunting the smart way, reduce tags and interest via increased predation, then Polarize alpha predators as fuzzy wazzies, to increase thier numbers all while making management look uncivilized.... Cecil the lion, scareface the grizzly bear, etc


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Re: Red wolf hybrids [Re: Palehorse] #7421038 02/01/19 01:42 AM
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A few years ago my son shot as big a coyote as I have seen. It weighed 71 lbs. a big thick barrel chested coyote with more white than usual. Around 3 hours north of there though. There were the usual comments: "may have some wolf blood". This thread kinda makes me wonder now?
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Re: Red wolf hybrids [Re: Smokey Bear] #7421190 02/01/19 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokey Bear
A few years ago my son shot as big a coyote as I have seen. It weighed 71 lbs. a big thick barrel chested coyote with more white than usual. Around 3 hours north of there though. There were the usual comments: "may have some wolf blood". This thread kinda makes me wonder now?
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There is so much attention on these hybrids right now that the TPWD biologist for our area asked me to let him know if we shoot one that appears unusually large so he can gather tissue for DNA testing.

He also told me not to fear shooting a Red Wolf because they are considered extinct in East Texas. Not sure how that works other than hunters cannot be held accountable for shooting an animal that isn't known to exist in the area. It would be a different matter if Red Wolves were known to live there, much like the current protection on Timber Rattlers.

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Re: Red wolf hybrids [Re: Palehorse] #7422188 02/02/19 01:17 AM
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Was watching one of the new Lone star law episodes and one of the Houston area GW mentioned red wolves still around on the coast.


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Re: Red wolf hybrids [Re: Drahthaar] #7440165 02/21/19 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Drahthaar
I live in N.C. where they stocked these Red Wolves, they have cross bred with the coyotes , and for a long time we couldn't shoot a coyote, still can't at night.
They have wiped out our deer herd.
IF you guys are smart you will not report seeing these hybrid coyotes, it will come the time when you wont be able to shoot a coyote , and all your deer will be gone. Forrest


There was a poor old woman who was attacked and killed in a small town just down the road from the Alligator River NWR where these red wolves were released. DNA collected from the woman shows that some type of canine did the attack but the first results couldn't determine if it was a dog, coyote, or wolf.

https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/north-carolina-high-school-teacher-killed-animal-attack-61200329

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Re: Red wolf hybrids [Re: Palehorse] #7442491 02/23/19 08:17 PM
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I wonder how DNA analysis will change the way we classify animals in the near future. I was reading an article the other day about how the Brown bear, Kodiak bear and the Grizzly bear are all genetically the same species. I suppose they could reclassify the Kodiak and Grizzly as sub-species. Hard to ague against DNA evidence.

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. Scary that people will go, or might go to such great lengths to further their personal endeavors.


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Re: Red wolf hybrids [Re: Palehorse] #7444139 02/26/19 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Palehorse
We have some really big, wolfy looking coyotes running around here in Brazoria county.


Deep East Texas too.

This is clearly a 'Yote' but if some of my neighbors were to see it...they would be shouting 'WOLF'.

I have some pics and videos of what I believe are honest to goodness CoyDogs and those can be kind of Wolfy looking too.

Additionally, our Coyotes tend to run larger than those in other parts of the State. So...folks who don't live here (but hunt here) often get excited over that and question the lineage.

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