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Pecos River
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01/08/19 02:39 AM
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Raw video but thought it kind of cool... The actual video is much clearer but youtube seems to want to save some disk space.
Last edited by leswad; 01/08/19 03:29 AM.
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Re: Pecos River
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Go to the little settings button the looks like a sprocket on the youtube video and click it and choose 1080 HD and the video will look much better.
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Re: Pecos River
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01/08/19 04:15 AM
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Some of the wildest country in Texas.
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Re: Pecos River
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01/08/19 12:15 PM
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Re: Pecos River
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Re: Pecos River
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01/08/19 01:14 PM
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Re: Pecos River
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01/08/19 02:40 PM
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Cabin rental in Pagosa Springs, Co. Sleeps 10, If interested please PM me.
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Re: Pecos River
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01/08/19 02:43 PM
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Re: Pecos River
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I've got to get me a drone! Very cool, thanks for sharing
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Re: Pecos River
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01/08/19 03:53 PM
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Re: Pecos River
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01/08/19 06:28 PM
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hells yeah man, I love it out there
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Re: Pecos River
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01/08/19 09:02 PM
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Very cool. How many miles are you down river from Pandale. Floated this river many of times.
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Re: Pecos River
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01/09/19 12:10 AM
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Very cool. How many miles are you down river from Pandale. Floated this river many of times. I think it is a day float from Pandale.
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Re: Pecos River
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Re: Pecos River
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01/09/19 10:39 PM
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Kind of sad to see jeeps down in there! Don't get me wrong, this is not a shot at anyone, people can do what they want but I like to keep wild places wild personally. Beautiful country, I love it!
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Re: Pecos River
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01/10/19 02:11 AM
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Kind of sad to see jeeps down in there! Don't get me wrong, this is not a shot at anyone, people can do what they want but I like to keep wild places wild personally. Beautiful country, I love it! Isn’t it illegal to drive motor vehicles in the riverbed like that?
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Re: Pecos River
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01/10/19 02:29 AM
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Kind of sad to see jeeps down in there! Don't get me wrong, this is not a shot at anyone, people can do what they want but I like to keep wild places wild personally. Beautiful country, I love it! Isn’t it illegal to drive motor vehicles in the riverbed like that? The Salt Fork of the Brazos cuts through the corner of our place and I was told by the Game Warden that you cold not drive a motorized vehicle across it. I haven't fact checked it because I figured the GW new what he was talking about. Surely someone else has some more info regarding this.
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Re: Pecos River
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01/10/19 02:34 AM
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Kind of sad to see jeeps down in there! Don't get me wrong, this is not a shot at anyone, people can do what they want but I like to keep wild places wild personally. Beautiful country, I love it! Isn’t it illegal to drive motor vehicles in the riverbed like that? The Salt Fork of the Brazos cuts through the corner of our place and I was told by the Game Warden that you cold not drive a motorized vehicle across it. I haven't fact checked it because I figured the GW new what he was talking about. Surely someone else has some more info regarding this. This is what TPWD has on their site. https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications...s/navigation/riddell/motorvehicles.phtmlProhibition of Wheeled or Tracked Motor Vehicles in Stream Beds
Chapter 90 of the Texas Parks & Wildlife Code contains a new prohibition against the operation of a wheeled or tracked motor vehicle in the “protected freshwater area” (the bed, bottom, and banks up to the gradient boundary) of a stream navigable by statute. The prohibition does not apply within the right-of-way of a state, county, or municipal road, or to an already-established private road crossing. There are numerous exemptions, including for emergencies, agricultural activities, utilities, sand and gravel extraction (under TPWD permit), pipelines, and camps and retreats. A person operating under an exemption is to minimize harming or disturbing vegetation, wildlife, and wildlife habitat, and must cross by the most direct feasible route. A county, a city, or a river authority may adopt a written “Local River Access Plan” allowing motor vehicle use in a stream bed within its jurisdiction. Such a local plan takes effect only if the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department approves it under criteria set out in the statute. The Canadian River is not governed by this law, under an exception for a river with headwaters in a state other than Texas and a confluence in another state.
Some key provisions are set out below. Under § 90.011, a violation is a Class C misdemeanor (with a fine up to $500), increasing to a Class B misdemeanor upon a person’s third or subsequent offense.
State Regulations Parks & Wildlife Code § 90.001. Definitions.
In this chapter:
(1) “Emergency” means a condition or circumstance in which a person reasonably believes that an individual has sustained serious bodily injury or is in imminent danger of serious bodily injury or that property has sustained significant damage or destruction or is in imminent danger of significant damage or destruction. (2) “Motor vehicle” means any wheeled or tracked vehicle, machine, tractor, trailer, or semitrailer propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used to transport a person or thing. (3) “Navigable river or stream” means a river or stream that retains an average width of 30 or more feet from the mouth or confluence up. (4) “Protected freshwater area” means that portion of the bed, bottom, or bank of any navigable river or stream that lies at or below the gradient boundary of the river or stream. The term does not include that portion of a bed, bottom, or bank that lies below tidewater limits.
Parks & Wildlife Code § 90.002. Operation of Motor Vehicle in Protected Freshwater Area Prohibited.
Except as provided by Section 90.003 or 90.004, a person may not operate a motor vehicle in or on a protected freshwater area on or after January 1, 2004.
Parks & Wildlife Code § 90.003. Exemptions.
(a) Section 90.002 does not apply to: (1) a state, county, or municipal road right-of-way; (2) a private road crossing established on or before December 31, 2003; or (3) operation of a motor vehicle by: (A) a federal, state, or local government employee if operation of a motor vehicle is necessary for conducting official business; (B) a person if operation of a motor vehicle is necessary for reasonable purposes related to usual and customary agricultural activities; (C) a person if operation of a motor vehicle is necessary to and is authorized by a mineral lease; (D) a person if operation of a motor vehicle is necessary to and authorized by a crossing easement granted by the General Land Office under the Natural Resources Code; (E) a person if operation of a motor vehicle is necessary to an activity authorized by Chapter 86; (F) a person in response to an emergency; (G) a person if operation of a motor vehicle is necessary for the lawful construction, operation, or maintenance of equipment, facilities, or structures used for: (i) the production, transportation, transmission, or distribution of electric power; (ii) the provision of telecommunications services or other services delivered through a cable system; (iii) the transportation of aggregates, oil, natural gas, coal, or any product of oil, natural gas, or coal; (iv) the production, treatment, or transportation of water or wastewater; or (v) dredge material disposal placement; (H) an owner of the uplands adjacent to a protected freshwater area, the owner's agent, lessee, sublessee, or the lessee or sublessee's agent, representative, licensee, invitee, or guest for reasonable purposes related to usual and customary operation of: (i) a camp regulated under Chapter 141, Health and Safety Code; or (ii) a retreat facility owned and operated by a nonprofit corporation chartered under the laws of this state before January 1, 1970; or (I) an owner of the adjacent uplands on both sides of a protected freshwater area and the owner's agents, employees, representatives, and lessees only for the purpose of accessing the owner's property on the opposite side of the protected freshwater area when no reasonable alternate access is available. (b) This chapter does not apply to any river with headwaters in a state other than Texas and a mouth or confluence in a state other than Texas. (c) A person exempt under this section who operates a motor vehicle in or on a protected freshwater area shall do so in a manner that avoids, to the extent reasonably possible, harming or disturbing vegetation, wildlife, or wildlife habitat within the protected freshwater area. A person exempt under this section who is crossing a protected freshwater area shall cross by the most direct feasible route.
Parks & Wildlife Code § 90.004. Local River Access Plan.
(a) A county, municipality, or river authority may adopt a written local plan to provide access to a protected freshwater area located within the county's geographical boundaries or the river authority's or municipality's jurisdiction. (b) A local plan adopted under Subsection (a) may: (1) notwithstanding Section 90.002, allow limited motor vehicle use in a protected freshwater area; (2) provide for the county, municipality, or river authority to collect a fee from a person accessing a protected freshwater area, the amount of which may not exceed the estimated cost that the county, municipality, or river authority incurs by allowing the limited use of motorized vehicles in protected freshwater areas within its jurisdiction; or (3) establish other measures consistent with the policy and purposes of this chapter. (c) Before a local plan adopted under Subsection (a) may take effect, a county, municipality, or river authority must file the plan with the department. A local plan does not take effect until the plan is approved in writing by the department. (d) The department may approve, disapprove, or modify a local plan filed under Subsection (c). In determining whether to approve, disapprove, or modify a local plan, the department shall consider whether the plan: (1) protects fish, wildlife, water quality, and other natural resources; (2) protects public safety; (3) provides for adequate enforcement; (4) coordinates with adjacent and overlapping jurisdictions; (5) provides for and publicizes adequate public access to a protected freshwater area; (6) provides for adequate public services relating to access to a protected freshwater area; and (7) protects private property rights. (e) The department by rule may adopt additional criteria or procedures to govern approval of local plans. Lack of rules adopted under this section alone is not a sufficient basis for rejecting a local plan. (f) The department may conduct periodic reviews of a local plan filed under Subsection (c) to monitor the effectiveness of the plan. (g) A person who has reason to believe that a local plan filed under Subsection (c) does not comply with this section may file a petition for revocation of the plan with the department. (h) The department shall revoke approval of a local plan if the department finds, as a result of a periodic review conducted under Subsection (f) or a petition for revocation filed under Subsection (g), that the plan as implemented fails to meet any of the criteria for approval established by Subsection (d). (i) The department may adopt rules necessary to implement this section and Section 90.002, including rules relating to locations from which a person may launch or retrieve a vessel by trailer from the banks of a protected freshwater area. For purposes of this subsection, “vessel” has the meaning assigned by Section 12.101.
Parks & Wildlife Code § 90.010. Enforcement.
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Re: Pecos River
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01/10/19 02:59 AM
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Thanks for posting. Looks like we may be exempt.
(I) an owner of the adjacent uplands on both sides of a protected freshwater area and the owner's agents, employees, representatives, and lessees only for the purpose of accessing the owner's property on the opposite side of the protected freshwater area when no reasonable alternate access is available.
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Re: Pecos River
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dang... good to know!
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Re: Pecos River
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