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 Re: What do you consider a double?
[Re: HardWired]
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01/04/09 12:51 AM
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So if you get 3 doubles in a row, is that good shooting or wanton waste?
No three doubles mean you get a DWI on the way home from said location. 
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Re: What do you consider a double?
[Re: HardWired]
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01/04/09 12:55 AM
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So if you get 3 doubles in a row, is that good shooting or wanton waste?
That would be called 'illegal' or 'over the limit'. We actually deduct for that.  
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Re: What do you consider a double?
[Re: 1 Year Wonder]
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01/04/09 01:26 AM
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No I am not wrong about what a double is, but then I came from an era when good shooting was more important, than spraying shot all over the place, which seems to be considered the thing to do.
You have a nice day.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/04/09 01:34 AM
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When a pair comes flying into the spread and you take 2 shots and drop both birds. To me that is a double. That is good shooting and you have placed both shots.
I have see 2-3-4-5 birds fall in 1 shot, but to me that is complete luck and not planned out.
Let's say a 8 birds come into your spread and you drop three with 3 shots. To me that is a triple. Again you are picking out a single bird with each shot and not flock shooting.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/04/09 02:16 AM
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My apologies, the title of the thread is: Quote:
What do you consider a double?
Everyone can consider a double what ever they want to, no one is right or wrong.
However, in the older literature, when people hunted a lot more than they do today, and things were handled in a more gentleman manor, a double was consider the killing of two birds with one shot.
I prefer to stick with that definition as I have seen and hunted with folks that could do it consistently, and they were not trying to prove anything to anyone, they just had the ability and discipline.
If a person wants to say it is two birds with two shots, go right ahead, to me that just seems a way to cheapen the actual meaning, but I guess that is what many folks today want to do.
Simply because they can't or won't learn how to shoot, it is easier to try and change the meaning of the term. JMO.
If you think that someone that drops two birds with one shot is skilled then you need to quit living in la la land. It's called stray pellets. I have been on several hunts where the extra duck that fell was an unwanted hen that was in the wrong place or it put someone over the limit.
I know a guy that got a ticket for an extra pintail that he refused to bury because of a stray pellet.
During teal season this year a flock of about a dozen teal birds buzzed over at about 20 yards and my buddie shot one shot as they were passing. He dropped two birds in the middle along with the lead bird and the tailing bird. 4 teal stone dead. The front one was prolly 10 feet ahead of the back one. I would not call that skill. He was aiming at the middle bird and had some stray pellets. He shot his limit with 1 shot.
If you shoot at a group of ducks and drop two ducks then you have shot a double. Whether you shot 1 time or 3 times.
Scotch double like mentioned before is a VERY common term for 2 birds with 1 shot.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/04/09 02:25 AM
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........Yep, what duckiller said.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/04/09 02:30 AM
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Maybe you need to grow up and realize that I was possibly/probably hunting duck and dove before you were a gleam in your Daddy's eyes.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/04/09 02:43 AM
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Maybe you need to grow up and realize that I was possibly/probably hunting duck and dove before you were a gleam in your Daddy's eyes.
Do you want a trophy or something? 
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/04/09 02:50 AM
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Not anything, I just want some of you folks to realize that there was duck hunting and duck hunters before you were born.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/04/09 02:57 AM
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Not anything, I just want some of you folks to realize that there was duck hunting and duck hunters before you were born.
Then JJ came along and killed all the ducks
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/04/09 01:57 PM
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Posted by CrazyHorsebreath: Quote:
Maybe you need to grow up and realize that I was possibly/probably hunting duck and dove before you were a gleam in your Daddy's eyes.
You obviously don't know who I am sonny. I'm an old fart so don't gimme that gleam in yo Daddys eye crap.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/04/09 02:43 PM
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Ya'll chill, before this one gets locked up...
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Re: What do you consider a double?
[Re: Sethfish]
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01/05/09 12:28 AM
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So two singles killed in less than say a minute would constitute a double? Is the time frame accurate?
Your not getting it. For it to be a double with two shots, it has to be out of the same flock. If you get one bird out of the initial pass, and the birds come back 20 seconds later and you fold another, you have two birds from that flock, but it wasn't a double. It was two singles. IF I knocked down two from the first pass in two shots, that would be a double.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/05/09 02:32 AM
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2 birds fall = Double
1,2 or 3 shots...
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That's how I use the word.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/05/09 02:49 PM
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/05/09 02:51 PM
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What about a quadruple  
That's what I call "skillet shot". 
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Re: What do you consider a double?
[Re: fowlplayr]
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01/05/09 02:59 PM
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that brings up a good questions what is a skillet shot, if you shoot one bird with one shot while cupping in the decoys into the wind and not in full flight is that a skillet shot
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/05/09 03:09 PM
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What about a quadruple
By some people's interpretation I guess you'd have to float the fourth.
I've heard double used for both. Most of the time when I hear double they mean two birds down in one group. If someone takes more than one bird in a single shot it is then explained to me that is what happened. A "double" verses a "double with one shot"...
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/05/09 04:17 PM
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What about a quadruple
I witnessed a 10 ga waterswat in 1979 that accounted for 5 ducks, the point total was way over 100
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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01/05/09 05:12 PM
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I've heard double used for both. Most of the time when I hear double they mean two birds down in one group. If someone takes more than one bird in a single shot it is then explained to me that is what happened. A "double" verses a "double with one shot"...
A double is both IMO. A scotch double just discribes the two in one luck shot better.
I think what we've learned here is most consider a double when two birds fall out of the same pass regardless of it being one shot or two.
I love how crazyhorse comes up with an argument that basicly says because he is old he somehow honors the skill of shooting more than people do today. I think that's a bunch of BS as hunters today probably spend more time shooting than people did back then...one because people have more time now, and two because we are a different sort and can affort to shoot more and take lessons.
That line of argument is totally subjective anyway and gives no credit to his case. If you want to quote a book, TV show, something that is standard in shooting (like I did with skeet) go ahead. But lets hold off on the backhanded remarks of people than you don't agree with.
Dear Lord please bullwhip me for saying this but I agree, Marcstar is in the lead. Please nobody use this as a quote!!!
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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12/07/18 02:25 AM
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Dude is still a nut, but I think he's right. 2 birds, one shot, its a double.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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Ok, with all the different ideas about a double, there is a generation gap. I started waterfowl hunting in the 1960's on my family's peanut fields with my grandpa and his buddies he invited to hunt with us. Most of them either shot side by sides or over unders. A Browning superposed was considered the superior shotgun of the time. Several of the old timers, my grandpa included, shot Winchester model 21 "Duck" guns, because they were more affordable and pretty much bullet proof. Nobody had heard of camo and we wore brown or tan waxed canvas. The vernacular I learned and still go by:
Double-on a decoying flight of birds, two birds are cleanly taken. One with the first barrel and another with the second barrel. The fellow who can consistently, cleanly double, was universally respected for his prowess.
Scotch Double-two birds with one shot. Great fun but $hit house luck. Usually some appropriate prodding about flock shooting from the group. Does not garner the respect of a true double.
Thanks for the post. It took me back in time to memories I had all but forgotten.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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12/07/18 12:55 PM
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Two birds in one shot is a double. Two birds in two shots is just killing two birds.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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Two birds, two shots. Two in one shot is a scotch double or just a 2 for 1. Triple is 3 birds, 3 shots.
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Re: What do you consider a double?
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Anyway you can get two chic's at the same time is a double in my book.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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