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Re: 270 vs 30-06 [Re: Bigfoot] #7331982 10/30/18 05:57 PM
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I have two of each (wood and synthetic stocks). Both calibers get the job done very well but if it was down to one it would be the 30-06 for the aforementioned reasons


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Re: 270 vs 30-06 [Re: Bigfoot] #7332073 10/30/18 06:46 PM
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The odd-six is one caliber I have never owned.....


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30-06 has always seemed perfect for where and what I hunt

Never had one take more than a few steps either after the boom

I’ve got a lot of confidence in that old caliber

And a few years ago I traded off a Winchester Mod 70 in 30-06, which I never should have done bang

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Food for thought.........The military used and still uses .308 as a standard issue sniper rifle, why have they never used a .270 or any cartridge in .277?

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Originally Posted By: spg
Food for thought.........The military used and still uses .308 as a standard issue sniper rifle, why have they never used a .270 or any cartridge in .277?


Because bullets of the .277 variety do not carry as good of a BC... confused2?

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If you can get more efficiency/energy down range out of a .308 than a .270 what do you think will happen if you compare a .270 to 30-06?

Re: 270 vs 30-06 [Re: spg] #7332375 10/30/18 11:10 PM
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If you can get more efficiency/energy down range out of a .308 than a .270 what do you think will happen if you compare a .270 to 30-06?


Why do I care?


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Originally Posted By: spg
Food for thought.........The military used and still uses .308 as a standard issue sniper rifle, why have they never used a .270 or any cartridge in .277?


The Garand was originally designed around a 270ish cartridge, but the Govt had stockpiles of 06 ammo so the rifle was modified. The BC of the bullets really isn't a huge obstical, it wouldn't take much for a bullet company to make high bc bullets and a rifle company to make a barrel with a tighter twist rate, but they don't cause with the 270 being primarily a hunting round the 10 twist barrel has always been plenty. If the 270 had ever been adopted by the military of was a new cartridge you can bet buy now someone would have built the faster barrel and high bc bullets, nothing actually stops that from happening physically, just economically.

Re: 270 vs 30-06 [Re: grizzlyman] #7332411 10/30/18 11:51 PM
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I have both, and like both, but will almost always pick up the 06 before the 270.


Me too and the opposite. I like my .270. Heck, I like shooting my sons .243.




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Re: 270 vs 30-06 [Re: Bigfoot] #7332487 10/31/18 12:47 AM
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Re: 270 vs 30-06 [Re: RJH1] #7332608 10/31/18 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: RJH1
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Food for thought.........The military used and still uses .308 as a standard issue sniper rifle, why have they never used a .270 or any cartridge in .277?


The Garand was originally designed around a 270ish cartridge, but the Govt had stockpiles of 06 ammo so the rifle was modified. The BC of the bullets really isn't a huge obstical, it wouldn't take much for a bullet company to make high bc bullets and a rifle company to make a barrel with a tighter twist rate, but they don't cause with the 270 being primarily a hunting round the 10 twist barrel has always been plenty. If the 270 had ever been adopted by the military of was a new cartridge you can bet buy now someone would have built the faster barrel and high bc bullets, nothing actually stops that from happening physically, just economically.


Berger made a decent BC .277" last year.

No one's old barrel will stabilize it. That leads into a custom barrel, which Bartlein will be happy to make for someone. In a barrel swap, someone might as well buy a 7mm 1:8 or 1:9, chamber it in .284 Win, .280 Rem, .280 A.I. and load it with a 175 gr. Then the .30-06 and the .270 are both left in the dust.

The market for the Berger .277" is for the guy with a pile of brass, that wants to add more oomph to his old .270.

So the .270 twist, for so long, has made it do what it does, and nothing more for the majority of shooters/hunters.


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Re: 270 vs 30-06 [Re: J.G.] #7332661 10/31/18 03:37 AM
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Food for thought.........The military used and still uses .308 as a standard issue sniper rifle, why have they never used a .270 or any cartridge in .277?


The Garand was originally designed around a 270ish cartridge, but the Govt had stockpiles of 06 ammo so the rifle was modified. The BC of the bullets really isn't a huge obstical, it wouldn't take much for a bullet company to make high bc bullets and a rifle company to make a barrel with a tighter twist rate, but they don't cause with the 270 being primarily a hunting round the 10 twist barrel has always been plenty. If the 270 had ever been adopted by the military of was a new cartridge you can bet buy now someone would have built the faster barrel and high bc bullets, nothing actually stops that from happening physically, just economically.


Berger made a decent BC .277" last year.

No one's old barrel will stabilize it. That leads into a custom barrel, which Bartlein will be happy to make for someone. In a barrel swap, someone might as well buy a 7mm 1:8 or 1:9, chamber it in .284 Win, .280 Rem, .280 A.I. and load it with a 175 gr. Then the .30-06 and the .270 are both left in the dust.

The market for the Berger .277" is for the guy with a pile of brass, that wants to add more oomph to his old .270.

So the .270 twist, for so long, has made it do what it does, and nothing more for the majority of shooters/hunters.


The same can be said for the 6.5x55 or 260 over a 6.5 Creedmoor. A new chambering wasn’t necessary: a change in twist rate would be adequate.

That doesn’t sell, though.


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Re: 270 vs 30-06 [Re: Tactical Cowboy] #7332749 10/31/18 10:21 AM
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You're right and wrong. Yes, those two can, and have done just as well with the new bullets. The new cartridge is shorter, and the case geometry makes for more efficient. But I wouldn't turn my nose up at any .260 Rem or 6.5X55.


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Be interested to know what percentage of hunters, in Texas, actually plan to shoot 500+ yards on a game animal.
My preference is .270 because of flatter shooting. It is not necessary for me to shoot over 150 yards where I hunt.


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Originally Posted By: DH3
Be interested to know what percentage of hunters, in Texas, actually plan to shoot 500+ yards on a game animal.
My preference is .270 because of flatter shooting. It is not necessary for me to shoot over 150 yards where I hunt.




You should start a poll.

I won't be shooting over 150 yards the rest of the season because my land is mostly timber.

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We all know the greatest answer in long action is 280ai, and probably of all rifles for any format to do anything you can imagine.


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We all know the greatest answer in long action is 280ai, and probably of all rifles for any format to do anything you can imagine.


You spelled 28 Nosler wrong. peep


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Originally Posted By: DH3
Be interested to know what percentage of hunters, in Texas, actually plan to shoot 500+ yards on a game animal.
My preference is .270 because of flatter shooting. It is not necessary for me to shoot over 150 yards where I hunt.


Whole lot of land outside the big thicket.

I've had lots of customers come to me before hunting west of I-35, in more than just Texas. They wanted to prepare for the possibility of a shot that far, which is quite possible.


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Originally Posted By: DH3
Be interested to know what percentage of hunters, in Texas, actually plan to shoot 500+ yards on a game animal.
My preference is .270 because of flatter shooting. It is not necessary for me to shoot over 150 yards where I hunt.


I don't know that I plan to shoot it, but I have one blind with three different shot areas that max at 437, 710, and 558. The max shots at three other blinds are 546, 483, and 660. Four others the max shot is ~200. Mills county.


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They both will outshoot the average shooter.


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We all know the greatest answer in long action is 280ai, and probably of all rifles for any format to do anything you can imagine.


You spelled 28 Nosler wrong. peep


How dair you corect my seplling?!?!?!


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30-06 is the way to go if you reload, just way more versatile. My 165 grain SST's are cooking @ 3000 FPS, that is flat enough for anybody. My 180 grain SST load measured 2850 FPS. I only have one rifle now, browning x-bolt in 06. Choice it because of the weight 6 lbs. 11 ounces, and barrel length 26". That extra 2-4 inches really makes a difference in velocity.


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I like them both.

I actually have more hunting rifles in .270 Win. than .30-'06, though I have more American surplus rifles in '06 than I have hunting rifles.

Personally, I shoot more 7mm-08 than anything else.


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