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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 05:57 PM
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I have two of each (wood and synthetic stocks). Both calibers get the job done very well but if it was down to one it would be the 30-06 for the aforementioned reasons
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 06:46 PM
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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The odd-six is one caliber I have never owned.....
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 09:39 PM
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30-06 has always seemed perfect for where and what I hunt Never had one take more than a few steps either after the boom I’ve got a lot of confidence in that old caliber And a few years ago I traded off a Winchester Mod 70 in 30-06, which I never should have done
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 10:25 PM
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Food for thought.........The military used and still uses .308 as a standard issue sniper rifle, why have they never used a .270 or any cartridge in .277?
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 10:28 PM
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Food for thought.........The military used and still uses .308 as a standard issue sniper rifle, why have they never used a .270 or any cartridge in .277? Because bullets of the .277 variety do not carry as good of a BC... ?
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 10:35 PM
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If you can get more efficiency/energy down range out of a .308 than a .270 what do you think will happen if you compare a .270 to 30-06?
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 11:10 PM
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If you can get more efficiency/energy down range out of a .308 than a .270 what do you think will happen if you compare a .270 to 30-06? Why do I care?
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 11:41 PM
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Food for thought.........The military used and still uses .308 as a standard issue sniper rifle, why have they never used a .270 or any cartridge in .277? The Garand was originally designed around a 270ish cartridge, but the Govt had stockpiles of 06 ammo so the rifle was modified. The BC of the bullets really isn't a huge obstical, it wouldn't take much for a bullet company to make high bc bullets and a rifle company to make a barrel with a tighter twist rate, but they don't cause with the 270 being primarily a hunting round the 10 twist barrel has always been plenty. If the 270 had ever been adopted by the military of was a new cartridge you can bet buy now someone would have built the faster barrel and high bc bullets, nothing actually stops that from happening physically, just economically.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 11:51 PM
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I have both, and like both, but will almost always pick up the 06 before the 270. Me too and the opposite. I like my .270. Heck, I like shooting my sons .243.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 12:47 AM
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 02:44 AM
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Food for thought.........The military used and still uses .308 as a standard issue sniper rifle, why have they never used a .270 or any cartridge in .277? The Garand was originally designed around a 270ish cartridge, but the Govt had stockpiles of 06 ammo so the rifle was modified. The BC of the bullets really isn't a huge obstical, it wouldn't take much for a bullet company to make high bc bullets and a rifle company to make a barrel with a tighter twist rate, but they don't cause with the 270 being primarily a hunting round the 10 twist barrel has always been plenty. If the 270 had ever been adopted by the military of was a new cartridge you can bet buy now someone would have built the faster barrel and high bc bullets, nothing actually stops that from happening physically, just economically. Berger made a decent BC .277" last year. No one's old barrel will stabilize it. That leads into a custom barrel, which Bartlein will be happy to make for someone. In a barrel swap, someone might as well buy a 7mm 1:8 or 1:9, chamber it in .284 Win, .280 Rem, .280 A.I. and load it with a 175 gr. Then the .30-06 and the .270 are both left in the dust. The market for the Berger .277" is for the guy with a pile of brass, that wants to add more oomph to his old .270. So the .270 twist, for so long, has made it do what it does, and nothing more for the majority of shooters/hunters.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 03:29 AM
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 03:37 AM
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Food for thought.........The military used and still uses .308 as a standard issue sniper rifle, why have they never used a .270 or any cartridge in .277? The Garand was originally designed around a 270ish cartridge, but the Govt had stockpiles of 06 ammo so the rifle was modified. The BC of the bullets really isn't a huge obstical, it wouldn't take much for a bullet company to make high bc bullets and a rifle company to make a barrel with a tighter twist rate, but they don't cause with the 270 being primarily a hunting round the 10 twist barrel has always been plenty. If the 270 had ever been adopted by the military of was a new cartridge you can bet buy now someone would have built the faster barrel and high bc bullets, nothing actually stops that from happening physically, just economically. Berger made a decent BC .277" last year. No one's old barrel will stabilize it. That leads into a custom barrel, which Bartlein will be happy to make for someone. In a barrel swap, someone might as well buy a 7mm 1:8 or 1:9, chamber it in .284 Win, .280 Rem, .280 A.I. and load it with a 175 gr. Then the .30-06 and the .270 are both left in the dust. The market for the Berger .277" is for the guy with a pile of brass, that wants to add more oomph to his old .270. So the .270 twist, for so long, has made it do what it does, and nothing more for the majority of shooters/hunters. The same can be said for the 6.5x55 or 260 over a 6.5 Creedmoor. A new chambering wasn’t necessary: a change in twist rate would be adequate. That doesn’t sell, though.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 10:21 AM
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You're right and wrong. Yes, those two can, and have done just as well with the new bullets. The new cartridge is shorter, and the case geometry makes for more efficient. But I wouldn't turn my nose up at any .260 Rem or 6.5X55.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 05:36 PM
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Be interested to know what percentage of hunters, in Texas, actually plan to shoot 500+ yards on a game animal. My preference is .270 because of flatter shooting. It is not necessary for me to shoot over 150 yards where I hunt.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 05:43 PM
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Be interested to know what percentage of hunters, in Texas, actually plan to shoot 500+ yards on a game animal. My preference is .270 because of flatter shooting. It is not necessary for me to shoot over 150 yards where I hunt. You should start a poll. I won't be shooting over 150 yards the rest of the season because my land is mostly timber.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 06:26 PM
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We all know the greatest answer in long action is 280ai, and probably of all rifles for any format to do anything you can imagine.
I'm a dude who likes long barrels!
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 06:30 PM
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We all know the greatest answer in long action is 280ai, and probably of all rifles for any format to do anything you can imagine. You spelled 28 Nosler wrong.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 06:32 PM
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Be interested to know what percentage of hunters, in Texas, actually plan to shoot 500+ yards on a game animal. My preference is .270 because of flatter shooting. It is not necessary for me to shoot over 150 yards where I hunt. Whole lot of land outside the big thicket. I've had lots of customers come to me before hunting west of I-35, in more than just Texas. They wanted to prepare for the possibility of a shot that far, which is quite possible.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 07:08 PM
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Be interested to know what percentage of hunters, in Texas, actually plan to shoot 500+ yards on a game animal. My preference is .270 because of flatter shooting. It is not necessary for me to shoot over 150 yards where I hunt. I don't know that I plan to shoot it, but I have one blind with three different shot areas that max at 437, 710, and 558. The max shots at three other blinds are 546, 483, and 660. Four others the max shot is ~200. Mills county.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 07:52 PM
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They both will outshoot the average shooter.
To be determined
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 08:39 PM
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We all know the greatest answer in long action is 280ai, and probably of all rifles for any format to do anything you can imagine. You spelled 28 Nosler wrong. How dair you corect my seplling?!?!?!
I'm a dude who likes long barrels!
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/31/18 08:56 PM
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30-06 is the way to go if you reload, just way more versatile. My 165 grain SST's are cooking @ 3000 FPS, that is flat enough for anybody. My 180 grain SST load measured 2850 FPS. I only have one rifle now, browning x-bolt in 06. Choice it because of the weight 6 lbs. 11 ounces, and barrel length 26". That extra 2-4 inches really makes a difference in velocity.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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11/01/18 07:43 PM
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I like them both.
I actually have more hunting rifles in .270 Win. than .30-'06, though I have more American surplus rifles in '06 than I have hunting rifles.
Personally, I shoot more 7mm-08 than anything else.
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