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 Boyds Stock
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10/19/18 12:46 PM
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I have a Ruger American 243 I would like to put a Boyds stock on. Is it truly a drop in or do I need some gunsmithing? Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Boyds Stock
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10/19/18 01:30 PM
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May need some minor sanding or dremel work but mine was a good fit. If I wouldn’t have had it bedded, it would’ve been a 10 min job.
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10/19/18 01:32 PM
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McMillan has been making $600 stocks lately that require some file work and sanding. I wouldn't be surprised if Boyd's does too.
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Re: Boyds Stock
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10/19/18 01:34 PM
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I agree. The few I have gotten, most needed about 15 mins worth of dremel work or sanding. Nothing hard at all though.
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10/19/18 01:45 PM
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First one I got was a near-perfect drop in. Took me more time to get the dremel out and put it up than the little bit I had to use it on. (out of sandpaper  ). Second one took about 15 minutes to sand some rough spots down to get everything to fit.
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Re: Boyds Stock
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10/19/18 02:51 PM
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Don’t expect the Boyd’s to be ready to go.
I spent a good amount of time on my mini-action AT-one stock for a Howa.
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10/19/18 02:57 PM
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IS there a better option than boyds? DFW Local?
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Re: Boyds Stock
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10/19/18 03:00 PM
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Boyd's needs to be bedded.
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10/19/18 03:10 PM
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I have a Ruger American 243 I would like to put a Boyds stock on. Is it truly a drop in or do I need some gunsmithing? Any help would be appreciated. Here's the answer to your question. Is it truly a drop in- Yes. It should drop right in. Will it have some contact points that may need to be addressed, sure. But, almost all stocks require some fitting and/or bedding. There are many rifles that come to me with a new stock on it. The stock has often been just "dropped in" with no modification. I will no longer shoot a customers' rifle for load work up that has a new, unbedded, dropped in stock. I've tried it enough and have come to the main conclusion.... An unbedded drop in stock will almost always have an accuracy or consistency issue to deal with. It will be stringing groups with mixed in fliers to deal with. I end up wasting my time and ammo on a problem I knew to begin with that might have an issue. If you are fine with 2-3 moa groups, then it will work fine for you. If you are a shooter who wants the most accuracy and consistency out of your ammo and rifle, then the stock will need to be bedded.
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10/19/18 06:13 PM
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I have a Ruger American 243 I would like to put a Boyds stock on. Is it truly a drop in or do I need some gunsmithing? Any help would be appreciated. Here's the answer to your question. Is it truly a drop in- Yes. It should drop right in. Will it have some contact points that may need to be addressed, sure. But, almost all stocks require some fitting and/or bedding. There are many rifles that come to me with a new stock on it. The stock has often been just "dropped in" with no modification. I will no longer shoot a customers' rifle for load work up that has a new, unbedded, dropped in stock. I've tried it enough and have come to the main conclusion.... An unbedded drop in stock will almost always have an accuracy or consistency issue to deal with. It will be stringing groups with mixed in fliers to deal with. I end up wasting my time and ammo on a problem I knew to begin with that might have an issue. If you are fine with 2-3 moa groups, then it will work fine for you. If you are a shooter who wants the most accuracy and consistency out of your ammo and rifle, then the stock will need to be bedded. On this note: My dad and I both put Boyd's stocks on our Ruger M77 Mk.II. Mine is 6.5x55mm and Dad's .257 Roberts. We did not bed either of them initially. His only shot stringy groups. Mine shot half-dollar or better groups all day long, no matter the load. Mine is still not bedded, Dad's has since been bedded. Sometimes you get lucky!
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10/19/18 07:37 PM
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^^^ Yes, but I wouldn't call half dollar groups a precision load. Sure, it's great for basic shooting and hunting. But going to the next level of accuracy and consistency will require some work.
But yes, sometimes you do get "lucky" on the stock fitting well enough to shoot ok.
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10/19/18 08:12 PM
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I had to do some minor fitting on my Boyd's Tikka stock. I used a pocket knife to clean up the recoil lug channel and I had to shim the bottom metal with a washer on each action screw because the mag wouldn't lock when I torqued it all down. I haven't shot it yet, but I'm expecting reasonable results without bedding. I don't expect or need a sporter weight factory barrel to perform like my heavy Bartleins.
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Re: Boyds Stock
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^^^ Yes, but I wouldn't call half dollar groups a precision load. Sure, it's great for basic shooting and hunting. But going to the next level of accuracy and consistency will require some work.
But yes, sometimes you do get "lucky" on the stock fitting well enough to shoot ok. The half-dollar loads are Winchester PowerPoints. My handloads are much better. 
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10/19/18 08:52 PM
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Am looking at a used Howa factory laminated stock that has a Boyd's logo on the butt pad in a SA caliber, I want to put it on a Wby VG S2 SA barreled action. Pics of the stock show no bedding or obvious wear/rub marks in the Howa factory stock, but no pics available of the barreled action.
The Wby composite stock barrel channnel is tight as the bark on a green oak tree. Is there a difference in the barrel diameter 'tween the 2 guns? Ya'll think I'll have any problems expecting a drop in fit? Gotta do sumthin' to relieve that barrel channel but hate the idea of grinding out the composite "honeycomb" stock.
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Re: Boyds Stock
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10/19/18 10:14 PM
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i put a boyd's on a .243 ruger american i have and it fit great, some minor adjusting to the magazine catch and it was ready to go. shot a lot better for me than the factory composite stock.
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10/19/18 11:46 PM
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I have a Ruger American 243 I would like to put a Boyds stock on. Is it truly a drop in or do I need some gunsmithing? Any help would be appreciated. 
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10/20/18 04:53 AM
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I've only had one Boyd's stock and it fit my rifle with no fitting. However, I've read enough reviews to come to the conclusion that yours may or may not fit without some work. The rifle manufacturers and the stock manufacturer both work with tolerances, so there is no guarantee it will be a perfect fit. Based on my stock, I will give Boyd's a thumbs up for overall quality.
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10/20/18 04:55 AM
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I've never put one together without putting it on the milling machine especially at the tang. Make sure its bedded from the recoil lug to the tang. Bedding can get messy so use release agent or car wax where you don't want it to stick to action/barrel/sides of stock. Its risky trying to mill off cured bedding, I had to replace more than one stock from that and from being bass/ackwards on the mill. Go slow.
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10/21/18 04:16 AM
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^^^ Yes, but I wouldn't call half dollar groups a precision load. Sure, it's great for basic shooting and hunting. But going to the next level of accuracy and consistency will require some work.
But yes, sometimes you do get "lucky" on the stock fitting well enough to shoot ok. Heck, you could likely take two of the same model rifles straight out of their box and find they perform differently. Of course, it’s why some guys prefer having a rifle customized by a competent gunsmith in order to maximize its performance. And definitely not to start another needless debate, it’s why there are those who strongly believe that following a break in regime with any new rifle is necessary to get the greatest performance from it.
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