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Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: TXCrossTimbers] #7314350 10/14/18 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: TXCrossTimbers
Mossberg 835 Ultimag is ultimate waterfowl gun.


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Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: 4Weight] #7314428 10/15/18 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: 4Weight
In that price range I would look heavily at the Stoger M3500. Buddy has one and he really likes it. Under 1K too.

Good luck !

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https://www.stoegerindustries.com/m3500-shotgun


Def a Stoeger M3000 or M3500. Best value in an auto that I'm aware of, particularly in a recoil operated shotgun which is superior (for a number of reasons) to gas operated popcorn .

Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: wal1809] #7314444 10/15/18 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: wal1809
If you got a grand to spend, why not just wait and save a little more for an SBE? Some things are like smoking hot woman, worth waiting for the right one.



You can get a new auto 12 for a lot less than a grand. A stoeger.

Using Wal's analogy, yea, a grand will get you a smokin hot shotgun, but why?

I understand some folks will spend the money, but ten benjamins won't do the trick if you aint got the skill. Just like a beautiful women, if you aint got game, paying a grand is the only way a man will ever exprience the thrill of the hunt and undressing that smokin hot hot women you hooked up with in the hotel bar.

Some men do just fine with a dirt cheap shotgun.

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Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: wal1809] #7314898 10/15/18 02:32 PM
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If you think you NEED a 3 1/2” 12ga you probably should have got a 10ga.
3” is fine for geese.


I see it different. If you go with a 10ga, that's all you got. The 3.5 12ga and the 10ga are extremely close, in the world of ballistics. With that being said, a 3.5 12ga can shoot 2.75, 3 and 3.5 inch shells. So the way I see it you get a much more versatile weapon, all the way up to something very compatible to the 10ga. The best thing is you're not paying 10ga prices for shells.


The 10ga will out pattern the 12ga 3 1/2" gun day in and day out, have less felt recoil and pattern the large letter shot that shines in large payloads exponentially better than ANY 12ga


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Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: BradyBuck] #7316806 10/17/18 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: BradyBuck
Everything I would suggest is $1200+

Good luck


I agree. A few hundred can make a big difference.

Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: jerblack] #7316820 10/17/18 12:52 AM
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"duck" guns are a marketing thing. You couldn't fit the ducks and geese that have been killed with an original humpback or 1100 in a salt dome...and they didn't make them with camo patterns either, nor did they have barrel stickers. No need for 3-1/2" shells, 3" if you are shooting a lot of big geese, 2-3/4 for ducks. tighten the choke down and shoot something more dense than steel.

Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: jerblack] #7318518 10/18/18 02:11 PM
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Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: jerblack] #7318614 10/18/18 03:27 PM
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Mossburg 930 $530 at Able Ammo
If he's just getting into ducks, he would want to start cheap and start with a throw away gun

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Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: jerblack] #7318663 10/18/18 04:15 PM
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Look used- I've seen plenty of SBEII, Maxus, etc on the market because people decided they want something new. The older Browning Gold is a great gun as well, I've seen good condition 3.5" stalker models for <$800

If you are budget limited I would also stick to a black gun so you can get more actual bang for your buck. No need for camo dip.

Nothing wrong with getting a 3.5"- doesn't mean you need to shoot them for everything but nice to have for turkeys, geese, cranes... and you don't have to tote the heft of a 10ga for the rest of the season.

Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: TXCrossTimbers] #7318694 10/18/18 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: TXCrossTimbers
Mossberg 835 Ultimag is ultimate waterfowl gun.

bought one when they first came out.. now have a rifle and riot barrel...
blue and wood... added a leather lace-up pad... leggo-gun, can make it do anything

Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: wal1809] #7318698 10/18/18 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: wal1809
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If you think you NEED a 3 1/2” 12ga you probably should have got a 10ga.
3” is fine for geese.


I see it different. If you go with a 10ga, that's all you got. The 3.5 12ga and the 10ga are extremely close, in the world of ballistics. With that being said, a 3.5 12ga can shoot 2.75, 3 and 3.5 inch shells. So the way I see it you get a much more versatile weapon, all the way up to something very compatible to the 10ga. The best thing is you're not paying 10ga prices for shells.

shot a lot of doves w/my 835... it was a do-all gun 20yrs ago..
I have other guns now... the big Mossy did it all then when I could only afford one gun...
rice geese, dux and doves... even took it to a sporting clay range .. shot about 25 out of 50

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if only they made the 935 in blue and wood..
don't care for the plastic guns

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Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: 68A] #7318705 10/18/18 04:59 PM
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3 1/2 is overrated.

rice prarie pass shooting at camp when you only shoot a few times, the 3.5 puts a few more shot up there...
they're high and not decoying...
not sky-blasting.. just fun camp pass shooting

Re: Suggestions for a Duck Gun [Re: jerblack] #7319762 10/19/18 03:54 PM
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Go try holding a few that have been recommended and see what fits.

I like my Browning Maxus, but its above your price point.

After I got my Browning I discovered that Winchester had their SX3 made by Browning. It uses the same gas technology that is in the Maxus.

The Maxus is unable to fit an extension tube, but the Winchester can.

Winchester has phased out the SX3 and now has the SX4. From what I read it uses the same technology as the SX3, but they made imporvements, such as a bigger trigger guard.

Bud's has one in your price range -

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/31131

But again, before you buy any of the shotguns recommended, go hold them and see how they shoulder.


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3 1/2 is overrated.

rice prarie pass shooting at camp when you only shoot a few times, the 3.5 puts a few more shot up there...
they're high and not decoying...
not sky-blasting.. just fun camp pass shooting


Putting more pellets in the air doesn’t extend your range. Nor does more powder necessarily help your pattern. If you wanna take long shots, shoot heavier shot and up your choke size. However, bigger shot pushed faster usually equates to less than ideal patterns, at least IME. Read an article awhile back where a guy had tested turkey loads in both 3 & 3.5, from 30 yds to 75 yds. The percentage of pellets in the kill zone for both shells was roughly the same ( wanna say within 2%), for all ranges. When he got to 75 yds, the hits were a foot low and didn’t penetrate cardboard. I’m not saying 3.5 doesn’t have its place but the notion that it’s needed to kill the bigger birds is not true.

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