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Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/07/18 01:18 PM
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It is depressing when you leave a lease and decide to step up and pay big money(for us anyway) but still cannot find what you are looking for.
Add us to the queue of lookers.....
Wanting something around the San Saba area 2 hunters and looking to pay around $3,000 per gun.
Would like to be able to take my wife to hunt off my quota.
Not looking for one hunter per 50-100 acres. So many leases are soooooooo crowded.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/07/18 01:35 PM
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Look at that concan area lease on here. Looks pretty good
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/07/18 04:24 PM
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Look at that concan area lease on here. Looks pretty good I inquired about it but there are around 30 members and that is a lot of personalities to work with. It seemed like a headache I did not want to endure.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/07/18 09:00 PM
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Depressing, stressful, and frustrating. But it will come together.
This year I took the leap to get off my old lease with no other lease lined up. Looking for a lease became an obsession. It was always on my mind. I created a folder in my iPhone with tons of websites I kept an eye on and I looked multiple times a day. I would spend my lunch breaks at the computer, calling landowners, and constantly searching. It took months but I eventually found a place that met my all of my goals: within my budget, a reasonable driving distance, not too crowded, and lots of free range exotics (my Holy Grail).
The trick is to be the first person to contact the LO when a lease or spot is posted. You have to be vigilant. You need to have cash in hand and be ready to go inspect the place at a moment's notice. Do this and you will find something. But you may want to open up your desired area to the Hill Country rather than only San Saba County. I hunted San Saba for over a decade two leases ago and loved it. I tried really hard to find a place there but they are HARD to come by.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/07/18 09:18 PM
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If you think lease hunting is depressing, don’t ever try being a landowner & try finding good leasees. They are all doing you a favor by wanting to crowd all their a-hole buddies on, for cheap, & shoot up your whole place for you. Most of them think the landowner should be paying them.......
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/07/18 09:23 PM
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If you think lease hunting is depressing, don’t ever try being a landowner & try finding good leasees. They are all doing you a favor by wanting to crowd all their a-hole buddies on, for cheap, & shoot up your whole place for you. Most of them think the landowner should be paying them....... Why don’t you stop whining or stop leasing? Like I told you a few years ago I wouldn’t hunt on your place if you did pay me.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/07/18 09:35 PM
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Depressing, stressful, and frustrating. But it will come together.
This year I took the leap to get off my old lease with no other lease lined up. Looking for a lease became an obsession. It was always on my mind. I created a folder in my iPhone with tons of websites I kept an eye on and I looked multiple times a day. I would spend my lunch breaks at the computer, calling landowners, and constantly searching. It took months but I eventually found a place that met my all of my goals: within my budget, a reasonable driving distance, not too crowded, and lots of free range exotics (my Holy Grail).
The trick is to be the first person to contact the LO when a lease or spot is posted. You have to be vigilant. You need to have cash in hand and be ready to go inspect the place at a moment's notice. Do this and you will find something. But you may want to open up your desired area to the Hill Country rather than only San Saba County. I hunted San Saba for over a decade two leases ago and loved it. I tried really hard to find a place there but they are HARD to come by. We are not set on only San Saba county.......just looking around that general area.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/07/18 10:27 PM
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Mexico would fit your requirements!! Besides the San Saba thing. We hunt 1333 ac per man on my lease. The ranch is 8000 ac total.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/08/18 12:46 AM
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/08/18 02:07 AM
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I would do that in a heartbeat but he only has one opening.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/08/18 02:58 AM
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Why don’t you stop whining or stop leasing? Like I told you a few years ago I wouldn’t hunt on your place if you did pay me. & I see your still butt-hurt, after all these years........
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/08/18 04:28 PM
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There’s one on TBH in Knox county that looks really good
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/10/18 01:39 PM
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I possibly know of one in Archer County. Call me 940-452-4449
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/14/18 04:47 PM
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Still looking.
Open to more areas.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/15/18 12:04 AM
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I doubt I can help you since at best we have only one spot and its out of your price range but I want to comment on your pricing comment. We lease a large place west of DFW and we keep a real low number of hunters per the acreage so it drives the price up to about $5000 a man including all feed etc. From what I have learned about the pricing in our area is that a lot of folks pay in the 2000 to 2500 range so I think you going up to 3000 does put you in a competitive range for many leases. I think that holds true in the hill country as well. Of course most folks know that South Texas has gone nuts and is in the 10000 a man range. Keep in mind(in my opinion) most landowners price their property at a fairly similar price per acre(compared to others in the area per what you get.) THE MAIN DRIVING FORCE behind the PRICE PER MAN is how many hunters there are per the acreage. Of course the more hunters, the more dead bucks so less mature bucks in the older age class so its difficult to maintain consistent Trophy quality over the long haul. Even the landowners and hunters that understand/agree/appreciate this concept it usually doesn't matter cause the price per acre has gotten so high that hunters are understandably unwilling or unable to pay the higher price per man that's required to keep the hunter numbers down. Sorry, I didn't intend to ramble so much so ill sum up by saying your 3000 should be enough money to get you a place and I wish you luck.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/15/18 12:32 AM
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Nice one posted today - $3000 a gun - 1200 acres and two guns
Last edited by tlk; 06/15/18 12:33 AM.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/15/18 12:45 AM
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I don’t mind paying more but my dad has a hard time convincing himself to spend any more than that.
We don’t have too many years left together so I am sticking with his preferences. So I have to have at least spots for him and me.
Fingers crossed and we are constantly looking.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/15/18 02:42 PM
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I doubt I can help you since at best we have only one spot and its out of your price range but I want to comment on your pricing comment. We lease a large place west of DFW and we keep a real low number of hunters per the acreage so it drives the price up to about $5000 a man including all feed etc. From what I have learned about the pricing in our area is that a lot of folks pay in the 2000 to 2500 range so I think you going up to 3000 does put you in a competitive range for many leases. I think that holds true in the hill country as well. Of course most folks know that South Texas has gone nuts and is in the 10000 a man range. Keep in mind(in my opinion) most landowners price their property at a fairly similar price per acre(compared to others in the area per what you get.) THE MAIN DRIVING FORCE behind the PRICE PER MAN is how many hunters there are per the acreage. Of course the more hunters, the more dead bucks so less mature bucks in the older age class so its difficult to maintain consistent Trophy quality over the long haul. Even the landowners and hunters that understand/agree/appreciate this concept it usually doesn't matter cause the price per acre has gotten so high that hunters are understandably unwilling or unable to pay the higher price per man that's required to keep the hunter numbers down. Sorry, I didn't intend to ramble so much so ill sum up by saying your 3000 should be enough money to get you a place and I wish you luck. That's funny, I was gonna say just the opposite a while back, but refrained as I didn't want to seem inflammatory. IMHO, 3000/pp for a "good" lease is way too cheap. 3000/pp will get a decent lease, but a good lease is gonna be higher and a great lease is gonna be much higher than 3000/pp. (and I know my opinion isn't worth much).
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/17/18 10:56 PM
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JROD has a lease opening that looks very good
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/18/18 12:01 AM
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JROD has a lease opening that looks very good Yep....it would have been gone a while ago but I have to have a spot for my dad and myself. Plus my wife hunts and I have a youngster that will be hunting before long. JROD only has one opening Only being able to spend $3000 is limiting so we may very well be without a lease. If that is the case.... I will save the money and go hunt Nilgai or Aoudad.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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I read it as two openings - sorry - it looked like it fit
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/18/18 12:46 AM
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Hang in there Redman. You can find something. As Texas Buckeye said "3000 may not get you a good lease and certainly not a great one" but I still think 3000 will get you a place to hunt for sure. IM not for sure about Hill Country but theres lots of popular country west of dfw that guys pay 2500 to 3000 for--at that price they almost have to put way too many hunters on it but its a place to hunt. Txhuntr2 posted on this thread he knew of "tons" of websites to use to find a lease so maybe he will repost and tell you(and the rest of us) what they are. I only know of leasehunter.com that's any good so be sure and check it out. Good luck.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/19/18 01:53 PM
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Saw this over on Texas Bowhunter - looks like a good place
2 spots Coke county lease have a 650 acre lease in Coke county. 4 spots total and I have two of them. The wife and I. She might hunt 3-4 days out of the year. 6 stock ponds scattered about. Year round lease with water and electric. Rv hookups. Deer,turkey,quail,dove,hogs and yotes. Also one mile away from Oak creek lake as the crow flys for summer fishing. 2500.00 per gun. This will be my third season managing this lease. It was myself and wife and a business partner and his wife. They have suddenly decided to retire and move to Arkansas. This was an all the sudden move on my buddies part and very unexpected. Anyway, if your looking for a place let's talk.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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06/20/18 01:33 PM
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Deer lease opening I have a paper company lease that is 6 miles north of corrigan. Its a new place and we currently have a couple of openings. This is a family lease.
Another one on Texasbowhunter forum
1100acres 2 stands per member( most guys just have one) 1 buck 13" spread +4.5 years old 1 cull via tpwd description +2 years old 1 doe Unlimited hogs/varmits 1650 per gun which includes spouse and children 18 and under. They hunt with you and off your allotment.
There is a big chance we will have electricity and you will also need an atv or sidexside to get around on the property.
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Re: Lease Hunting is Depressing
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PM sent about Coke county
I can’t do anything in east Texas. I’d be hesitant to hunt there for free....for extended periods of time.
Did that for several years and methheads can’t leave anything alone.
For whatever reason....east Texas has a greater concentration of methheads, poachers, and thieves.
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