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More good news on cwd.
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05/28/18 06:06 PM
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therancher
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Not sure how this flew under the radar. But this really blows big holes in the hypothesis that cwd started in Colorado. Unless one believes that deer/elk swam from the US to Norway. So it seems that “if you test for it you’ll find it” has more merit than “it was created in a pen in Colorado and will destroy wild deer populations just before it kills all human life on the planet”. Chronic wasting disease (CWD) was diagnosed in March 2016 in a wild reindeer (Rangifer tarandus) from the Nordfjella mountain area in Norway. This was the first documented case of CWD in Europe. In May and June 2016 CWD was diagnosed in two mooses (Alces alces) in Selbu in South Trøndelag county, approximately 300 km north from the first case.http://www.hjortevilt.no/skrantesjuke-cwd/cwd-in-norway-english/
Crotchety old bastidge
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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05/28/18 06:19 PM
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Infected wild reindeer and wild moose 300 kilometers away from each other in a country separated from source populations by an entire ocean! Man! That’s a seriously contagious pathogen... 
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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#7181989
05/28/18 07:21 PM
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I think it has been around much longer than the sky is falling crier crowd wishes us to believe. No $ in that line of thought for research though.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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#7182004
05/28/18 07:48 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Infected wild reindeer and wild moose 300 kilometers away from each other in a country separated from source populations by an entire ocean! Man! That’s a seriously contagious pathogen... They have blamed it on imported(from the US) deer scent attractants.... who know that raindeer are atttracted to whitetail pee
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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05/28/18 07:50 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I think it has been around much longer than the sky is falling crier crowd wishes us to believe. No $ in that line of thought for research though. Nailed it.
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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05/29/18 03:09 AM
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Infected wild reindeer and wild moose 300 kilometers away from each other in a country separated from source populations by an entire ocean! Man! That’s a seriously contagious pathogen... They have blamed it on imported(from the US) deer scent attractants.... who know that raindeer are atttracted to whitetail pee That is a steaming crock of bull feces. And any honest person knows it.
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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#7182505
05/29/18 12:42 PM
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It was first documented in the US in Colorado first, as they were studying scrapies. I've never heard it originated here. I have always believed it has been here just was brought to light with testing. Beth Williams had a lot to say about that. Sure wish she was around to clear some things up. RIP Beth.
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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05/29/18 02:06 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Infected wild reindeer and wild moose 300 kilometers away from each other in a country separated from source populations by an entire ocean! Man! That’s a seriously contagious pathogen... They have blamed it on imported(from the US) deer scent attractants.... who know that raindeer are atttracted to whitetail pee That is a steaming crock of bull feces. And any honest person knows it. Don’t disagree one bit, it so far off it’s comical.
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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05/29/18 02:26 PM
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It was first documented in the US in Colorado first, as they were studying scrapies. I've never heard it originated here. I have always believed it has been here just was brought to light with testing. Beth Williams had a lot to say about that. Sure wish she was around to clear some things up. RIP Beth. I agree with you. All the doomsday’ers say it crossed species in Fort Collins in the research facility that housed a lot of scarpied sheep... but yet the same doomsday’‘ers don’t even recognize that By 1967 the US had two decades worth of peak sheep levels with peak being 56million head. How can you subscribe to it beng so contagious yet it only jumping species in a pen? by 1945 there was more domestic sheep in the US then elk and deer. O well Regardless where it can from no body has yet to see a catastrophic lose or even herd reduction from it, even though we are historical peak concentrations of deer and elk.
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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05/29/18 04:00 PM
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Nature has a way of balancing everything out! It's when man gets involved when everything goes down the toilet. 
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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05/29/18 04:20 PM
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It was first documented in the US in Colorado first, as they were studying scrapies. I've never heard it originated here. I have always believed it has been here just was brought to light with testing. Beth Williams had a lot to say about that. Sure wish she was around to clear some things up. RIP Beth. Virtually all of the "scientists" who benefit from it being a man caused morph of a disease previously limited to sheep say it was the fault of the researcher in Colorado. Because if it's NEW and a man caused morph, it can be heralded as a threat to all deer and human life, and garner billions (over decades) for the "scientists" who study it to help "protect us from the coming apocalypse" they are so carefully inventing. If it proves to be a pre-existing disease that affects only certain cervid species, is so slow acting and specific that it never significantly impacts deer populations, and proves not to be able to jump to bovines much less humans.... well, there's no money in that.
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Re: More good news on cwd.
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05/29/18 08:58 PM
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Infected wild reindeer and wild moose 300 kilometers away from each other in a country separated from source populations by an entire ocean! Man! That’s a seriously contagious pathogen... They have blamed it on imported(from the US) deer scent attractants.... who know that raindeer are atttracted to whitetail pee That is a steaming crock of bull feces. And any honest person knows it. Don’t disagree one bit, it so far off it’s comical. Two different species 300 km isolated from each other. In the article below the Norweigians say they believe the moose cases were "naturally occurring"... lol Blamed the reindeer on urine (I don't believe they use scents to hunt there) but the moose are natural... www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/norway-p...s-brain-disease
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