Under your circumstances and for you, probably not. With that stated I hunted and guided in Pecos County till about the last 4 yrs. There was only 8 landowner tags issued prior to 2011 to private ranches (not many antelope). After that no tags were issued due to the significant die off in area more so in the Davis Mountains towards Alpine. So maybe not wrong on your part but illegal as hell. Also note if you tell me it was NOT Pecos County all surrounding counties pretty much banned the hunting within the last few yrs as In Brewster etc. Oh look were is states LANDOWNER CONSENT, You are not or were not the Landowner.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/regs/animals/pronghorn#permits
Pronghorn Antelope May be Harvested by Permit Only
For all pronghorn harvested in Texas, a permit must be properly and completely filled out and attached anywhere on the pronghorn. Pronghorn permits are issued to the landowner or landowner’s agent in most areas where there is an open season for pronghorn (the Trans-Pecos, Permian Basin and Panhandle); however, the department is testing an experimental, buck-only season in selected areas of the Panhandle. On properties within the experimental areas, hunters must obtain a FREE Experimental Pronghorn permit directly from the department or a participating local merchant, not from the landowner. Hunters must still obtain landowner consent to hunt (killing a pronghorn without landowner consent is a felony, see Unlawful Activities). Additionally, hunters must present the entire head (intact) of any harvested pronghorn at a designated check station within 24 hours of take. For more information on the experimental buck-only season in the Panhandle, including maps of the areas, locations where permits may be obtained, and locations of mandatory check stations, call (800) 792-1112, or see FAQs about pronghorn permits.

Years ago some buddies and I leased a big place outside of Fort Stockton. We sold guided hunts for the pronghorn tags and several mule deer hunts to some guys from Houston. We all hunted for free. Is that wrong?

Hell yes it was Pecos County and we were plenty legal 30 years ago.

His first name Bob???

The reason this discussion is all over the place is there is no one definition for “Lease Boss”. Could mean anything from collecting the money/handing it to the landowner to hundreds of hours of work/networking.

If a man does something for me, I have no problem paying him. In fact, I insist on it.
OTOH, if a man rips me off, I’m done with him.

Openness and transparency is the key - if it’s there everyone can make up their own mind about what is fair.

So...a lease boss is essentially a property manager correct? He is doing work outside of actually being a lessee on the property correct? If this is the case then shouldn't his time and effort be worth something? Maybe not a free ride but rather a discounted rate versus what the others pay? Just sayin....

Thats just it. Most say they go above and beyond. All I want to know is how does it justify not paying 2 to 3 thousand in lease fees (example only may be less ir higher).

2 to 3 paid by members for what?? That is what I ask. I made a few phone calls, kicked Joe off etc. Justification or freeloading??

Once again. If that’s all you did as lease manager then there was no reason for you to be a lease manager. I pay my own way but I spend hours upon hours doing the job. 12 hunters. Collect money. Handle feed delivery and payments, organize work days, find the RIGHT new members, show all prospective new members the ranch , answer multiple questions, keep land owners updated and happy, take ALL the risk as my name is on the lease - I am liable for all the money due .... I can go on and on. And I pay my own way

The reason this discussion is all over the place is there is no one definition for “Lease Boss”. Could mean anything from collecting the money/handing it to the landowner to hundreds of hours of work/networking.

If a man does something for me, I have no problem paying him. In fact, I insist on it.
OTOH, if a man rips me off, I’m done with him.

Openness and transparency is the key - if it’s there everyone can make up their own mind about what is fair.

Good luck to you - hope you can work through your issues - Adios

You said Adios like 3 days ago and keep coming back?

Lord knows I don't like to offend people so I'll try and be gentle. What's the difference between a salesman getting a commission on a 40 thousand dollar truck, a realtor getting a commission on a 150 thousand dollar house or a lease manager/boss taking his commission in trade for putting together the lease and taking on the responsibilities that go with it.

Example.
I'm the owner of say 5 sections and I want to lease it out for 2000 dollars a section. I have a man that tells me he can get that done and his commission for putting it together and handling the hunters is he hunts free. He takes the headaches of dealing with the hunter and also the responsibilities, I take the money. To be honest I think that's the way I would prefer it, I only have to deal with one person. I'm not sure how anybody can see a problem with this. The deal between him and I is nobodies business but ours, the rest is deals between him and the hunters.

I never thought about doing this. Interesting idea.

So I could find a landowner looking to lease like $24K worth of land for the season or maybe year round. I fork over the $24K and secure the lease. Then I find 8 hunters to pay $3,000 each. Have reasonable lease rules. Plus there might need to be some sort of expenses related to electricity etc.

At the rate people seem to fork over money to get leases this would not be a problem. I mean some people pay before even seeing the property.

Nonetheless I'll bet you will earn your share just dealing with people.

I have no problem with it either way. EXCEPT, when you put another person between you and your customer you increase the potential for graft and corruption. Even “respectable” folks on this forum think it’s fine and dandy to bribe the lease boss to keep new offers from the landowner.