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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
[Re: Mr. T.]
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03/01/18 05:18 AM
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I don't believe in pistol caliber carbines. The only reason 9mm ammo exist is because it can be shot from a gun that can be carried on your belt. If you're not carrying it on your belt, then you don't need to be handicapped with ammo that weak.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 05:22 AM
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I don't believe in pistol caliber carbines. The only reason 9mm ammo exist is because it can be shot from a gun that can be carried on your belt. If you're not carrying it on your belt, then you don't need to be handicapped with ammo that weak. That is cool or whatever too 
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 05:28 AM
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I don't believe in pistol caliber carbines. The only reason 9mm ammo exist is because it can be shot from a gun that can be carried on your belt. If you're not carrying it on your belt, then you don't need to be handicapped with ammo that weak. Yea, cus who wants to be able to shoot with cheap ammo. Seems dumb
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 06:31 AM
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I don't believe in pistol caliber carbines. The only reason 9mm ammo exist is because it can be shot from a gun that can be carried on your belt. If you're not carrying it on your belt, then you don't need to be handicapped with ammo that weak. OO Yea, cus who wants to be able to shoot with cheap ammo. Seems dumb Guess somebody doesn’t like to have fun. And pretty sure there are thousands of dead people that would tell you it’s not weak, if they could talk of course.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 02:23 PM
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I don't believe in pistol caliber carbines. The only reason 9mm ammo exist is because it can be shot from a gun that can be carried on your belt. If you're not carrying it on your belt, then you don't need to be handicapped with ammo that weak. OO Yea, cus who wants to be able to shoot with cheap ammo. Seems dumb Guess somebody doesn’t like to have fun. And pretty sure there are thousands of dead people that would tell you it’s not weak, if they could talk of course. I was being sarcastic. He’s being silly.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 02:39 PM
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On tactical entries I always felt very comfortable behind my HK MP5. I had no idea the 9mm was so weak. 
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 03:25 PM
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It is weak compared to a rifle. Some rifle ammo is not much, if any more expensive either.
To each his own, but with all of the $500 AR15s on the market that also shoot cheap ammo, I don't see the appeal of a Hipoint 9mm.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 06:25 PM
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For $100 more, I'd get a cheap used AR, OP. Still pretty cheap on ammo and a lot more power for hogs. You can get with with a 14.5" barrel that's pinned/welded and still be pretty compact.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 08:17 PM
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$300 seems awful high for what used to be a $150 gun. I'd go for a $400 AR instead.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 08:34 PM
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The only pistol caliber carbines that I like are chambered in 357 Mag, 44 Mag, and 45 Colt.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 08:46 PM
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I bought mine for a few reasons..
Mainly for fun frankly and I have a number of ARs already in varying caliber.. Especially shooting suppressed,they are a lot of fun..
I also have it for home defense and it is very easy for my wife to shoot than a pistol... Like I said, I wanted to try it on a few hogs and with the extra velocity out of the 8" barrel it has proven very effective on pigs at shorter ranges.
I can put a lot of rounds in a tight group fast at close range with it and don't feel at all "undergunned"
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 10:10 PM
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The keltec sub2000..
The semi-automatic Sub-2000™ is designed to be the most convenient 9mm or .40 caliber rifle available. It’s adjustable and foldable to 16.25 x 7 inches for easy storage and can accept most popular handgun magazines. Plus it can easily be disassembled for cleaning or inspection without tools. Ideal for backpacking trips and situations where space and convenience are paramount.
The SUB-2000 is available in the following variants: Smith & Wesson M&P (9mm or .40cal) Sig Sauer P226 (9mm or .40cal) Beretta 92 & 96 Glock 17, 19, 22 & 23 Got a Kel Tec and love it.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/01/18 10:44 PM
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The only pistol caliber carbines that I like are chambered in 357 Mag, 44 Mag, and 45 Colt. If they made a hipoint carbine in .357 I’d probably have one to go with my revolver and my Henry.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/02/18 02:14 PM
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Thanks A LOT Mr T the itch has come back but maybe for a 45acp this time
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/04/18 05:57 PM
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I bought the ruger 9mm carbine break down rifle for my truck with a aimpoint and 17 rd mags..should be getting it anyday this ^^^
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/04/18 06:18 PM
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Whatever happened to the Beretta CX4?
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/04/18 07:42 PM
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The keltec sub2000..
The semi-automatic Sub-2000™ is designed to be the most convenient 9mm or .40 caliber rifle available. It’s adjustable and foldable to 16.25 x 7 inches for easy storage and can accept most popular handgun magazines. Plus it can easily be disassembled for cleaning or inspection without tools. Ideal for backpacking trips and situations where space and convenience are paramount.
The SUB-2000 is available in the following variants: Smith & Wesson M&P (9mm or .40cal) Sig Sauer P226 (9mm or .40cal) Beretta 92 & 96 Glock 17, 19, 22 & 23 Got a Kel Tec and love it. I do too. They are pretty fun little rifles
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/07/18 09:18 PM
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I had a CX4 for a few years. Fed any size 9mm I had. For grins, a couple of friends and myself would put out a box of clays at various ranges from about 40 yards out to 150. From 40 to about 75-80 yards, the peep site that came with it worked well. Past that distance and it took some Kentucky windage to hit targets. From just over 100 out to the long one's, you were very definitely holding over  Never had any problems with feeding and the hogs I shot with it were in the 20-50 yard range and most, if not all, were DRT. The few that did move off didn't go more than 10-15 yards. Most of the longer shots didn't have any exit wounds but the majority dropped pretty quick. Only took one coyote that was stupid enough to stand there and let me walk shots into him. IIRC, it took 3 to put one on fur. Fun little rifle but don't miss it too much. It's the one caliber that I DON'T load for.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/07/18 09:44 PM
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Suppressed 9mm SBR are just fun to shoot... 
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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03/07/18 11:09 PM
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Full disclosure, I'm a pistol caliber carbine junkie. I hardly ever shoot my other ARs since I've put mine together and got them running great. You absolutely should get one if you want it, and I'd recommend an AR9 that accepts Glock mags over the Hi-point. Palmetto State Armory has out of the box solutions for a very good price.
Some reasons why:
1. The ability to use the same mags and ammo as your handgun is great, and mostly the same parts as other ARs means that you have to buy fewer peripherals and less ammunition to stay stocked up for the firearms you have.
2. They are light-recoiling, especially with 147gr ammunition.
3. They perform very well suppressed like every other 9mm.
4. They have good ballistics for up-close hunting out of short barrels.
5. With the advent of pistol braces, you can have a super handy 4" or 5" barreled pistol with a usable brace on the back of it making it much easier to throw in the passenger seat of the mule, and much quicker to grab should you need it.
6. Spare parts are plentiful and aftermarket support is great.
7. Awesome capacity. Grab a Glock 33 rounder and you're g2g.
The Hi-point basically only ticks the box for "uses same ammo," and nothing else. It's not really even that much cheaper than a budget AR9 and you're much more likely to run into issues, especially with the magazines.
If the AR doesn't appeal to you, seriously consider the new Ruger PCC. It's got most of the same advantages, and also takes Glock mags.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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12/30/18 02:04 AM
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I have an Extar ep9 and the ep45. And absolutely love them. They are essentially ar9 pistols with a silly low price, shot everything, and use glock mags
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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There is a Ruger PC9 for sale in the classifieds now for a great price and is set up with Glock mags. I have one and love it. Put a TRS-25 red dot on mine and it's dead on at 50 yards. You will have higher velocities with the longer barrel and head shots on hogs will put them down. https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7389605/wts-ruger-pc9#Post7389605
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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I have an Extar ep9 and the ep45. And absolutely love them. They are essentially ar9 pistols with a silly low price, shot everything, and use glock mags Kind of digging the EP9, ecspecially at $419
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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I have an Extar ep9 and the ep45. And absolutely love them. They are essentially ar9 pistols with a silly low price, shot everything, and use glock mags Kind of digging the EP9, ecspecially at $419 Me too - that's low enough for me to want to try one out with good ammo.
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Re: Should I buy a 9mm carbine?
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This has my interest in 9mm carbines going again, I put together an AR9 a while back but had issues with the aftermarket mag not fully seating and getting a ftf unless I pushed and held it up in place. Picked up some Glock mags but haven't tried them yet. After reading this I pulled out my 9mm Uzi carbine project to see what I need to finish it, looks like I just need an ejector and pin.......ordered them and should be here soon. I have heard a lot of praise for the HiPoint carbine reliability and my son has the Beretta and it is reliable and fun to shoot. Haven't hunted with either so I am no help there but there is always a need for another gun!
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