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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 11:15 AM
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The Sharps 50 caliber influenced the history in the west..buffalo and all
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 01:55 PM
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I'm going to say that while Bigfoot may be right with the 2 world wars obviously shaping maps and power today, jeffbird has a great point too. Without the American influence, especially in the WWII, the world could be quite different today. The Japs woke a sleeping giant in 1941 and today that giant enjoys power to this day because of WWII. Thanks to the rifles that killed redcoats. That could also be my American pride wanting to say the Kentucky rifle is as important as the Browning pistol though. Merica
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 04:35 PM
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It's not written down in history (to my knowledge) so the exact gun isn't known but is thought to be the Chinese Fire Lance...but the one that would undoubtedly have had the most impact was in 9th Century China - the first gun had by far the most impact and changed history the most. It set in motion an arms race that will continue as long as man exists to make guns. Before the existence of that first gun, only arrows and bolts existed. After man first used gunpowder to propel a projectile, everything else became obsolete and killing became much easier.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 04:40 PM
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 05:10 PM
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Good grief ya'll The Daisy Red Ryder No Brainer
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 05:22 PM
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It's not written down in history (to my knowledge) so the exact gun isn't known but is thought to be the Chinese Fire Lance...but the one that would undoubtedly have had the most impact was in 9th Century China - the first gun had by far the most impact and changed history the most. It set in motion an arms race that will continue as long as man exists to make guns. Before the existence of that first gun, only arrows and bolts existed. After man first used gunpowder to propel a projectile, everything else became obsolete and killing became much easier. Exactly what I was thinking...you just got to it before I did.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 06:10 PM
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How about the Arquebus? Although there were many variations, this early adaption of the first feasible firearm ended the Middle Ages, the Feudal system, and the age of Chivalry. The armored knight became obsolete almost overnight.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 06:17 PM
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 07:08 PM
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That was one I was thinking of also. The Kentucky rifle which had the first rifling and hence "snipers"
I guess one particular single gun is too narrow of a subject because the Browning I named would be hard to beat.
The peacemaker, the mauser, the maxim and the gatlin are game changers for sure.
I dont see how a kalshnikov changed history just because they made a lot of them.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 07:31 PM
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 07:35 PM
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The AK has played a major role in history.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/11/18 07:49 PM
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Not sure which individual weapon is THE most important in history, but this one would have to rank pretty high.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/12/18 12:04 AM
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Good grief ya'llThe Daisy Red Ryder You'll shoot your eye out!
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/12/18 12:36 AM
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Changed history the most? That’s difficult to quantify. The very first firearm would seem the obvious choice, but that was going to happen, sooner or later, so it hardly seems significant enough to consider. When you think about the sheer volume of use, and the world wide impact that its had a hand in, I think Payne is correct. The AK-47 didn’t make a singular huge impact, but overall, it’s had an incredible influence in the world of weaponry.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/12/18 02:20 PM
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/12/18 06:55 PM
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AK47 for sure.
If you want the American twist, reading Chris Kyle's American Gun offers some pretty good candidates.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/12/18 06:59 PM
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Never have so many missed the point of a post. And that's saying something for THF. Or that it was ambiguous.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/12/18 07:50 PM
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The colt 1836 revolver the first made The matchlock rifle are my top two . Nothing can be invented without these guns
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/12/18 09:21 PM
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/12/18 09:33 PM
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Single, one gun, then yes the Browning that killed Ferdinand.
Type of gun, without a doubt Hiram's Machine Gun, changed warefare forever.... after centuries of infantry charges, they were over in a flash...
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/12/18 10:09 PM
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In the war of northern aggression the north received repeating rifles that finalized the war. What would have happened had the south received them? Would that not have been the most significant change in our current life. Good or bad?
Note: I may have made all this up. Going on memory. There was a book I saw in a book store years ago; Sci-Fi, what if, alternate history kind of thing. Basic premise is that round 1864 a stranger shows up (from the future?) and arms Robert E. Lee with 500 Kalashnikov AK-47s and thousands of rounds for each one.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/13/18 12:28 AM
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In the war of northern aggression the north received repeating rifles that finalized the war. What would have happened had the south received them? Would that not have been the most significant change in our current life. Good or bad?
Note: I may have made all this up. Going on memory. There was a book I saw in a book store years ago; Sci-Fi, what if, alternate history kind of thing. Basic premise is that round 1864 a stranger shows up (from the future?) and arms Robert E. Lee with 500 Kalashnikov AK-47s and thousands of rounds for each one. Guns of the South by Harry Turtledove
To be determined
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/13/18 12:42 AM
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The Kentucky rifle used by the American Revolutionaries. It gave them a strong ballistic advantage in both accuracy and distance over the Brits with the most powerful army in the world at the time. The creation of the United States rose from the average citizen owning and knowing how to use a rifle superior to that of the ruling powers. I used to think that as well. It's a common misconception and even the name Kentucky rifle. You can read more about it to find the real history. It was the Pennsylvania rifle which later morphed into the Kentucky rifle. They were used by militia and in guerrilla warfare of the day. They were also used by individuals for sniping British officers but they had to be protected while doing so. Mostly muskets were used in battles by soldiers. The Pennsylvania rifle had a part to play but has been romanticized to be something greater in terms of influence. Not any type of revisionist history. It's worth digging into and interesting. Note: Pennsylvania and Kentucky rifles are pretty much the same. But the Kentucky rifle became a more common term after the war of 1812. They are sort of different in that the Kentucky rifle had some years of development and improvement.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/13/18 12:51 AM
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In the war of northern aggression the north received repeating rifles that finalized the war. What would have happened had the south received them? Would that not have been the most significant change in our current life. Good or bad?
Note: I may have made all this up. Going on memory. There was a book I saw in a book store years ago; Sci-Fi, what if, alternate history kind of thing. Basic premise is that round 1864 a stranger shows up (from the future?) and arms Robert E. Lee with 500 Kalashnikov AK-47s and thousands of rounds for each one. Game over.
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Re: What single firearm changed history the most (in your opinion)
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02/13/18 01:30 AM
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Really, no firearm "changes" history. No person changes history. History is not made, not changed. The idea of changing history is just a bit too Orwellian, IMO. Just thought I'd point that out.
Another particular firearm that shaped history was Oswald's 6.5 Carcano. To have been alive when that happened is still incredible to me.
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