2Beez is correct, you were on the Wall of Shame for a 2 week ban last year, copyright violation. Seems like it was Sept/Oct, don't remember the exact month.

you could be a competitor's shill, who is to know for sure?

If it works well at launch, and they offer a trade-up program for x-sight owners, I’ll consider buying one. I really want a Pulsar Trail XP50 but can’t bring myself to spend that kind of money.

I bought Nike shoes last year and this year they came out with newer ones, do you guys think I can trade them in for newer ones? Sorry its off topic

prob not but those Nike’s prob also weren’t defective pieces of chit.

you'd be surprised. The straps kept coming loose

What a real piece of work atn must be real proud to have you as a employee.

What a real piece of work atn must be real proud to have you as a employee. [/quote]

So no on the shoe upgrades? I know it was off topic.

I would have been fine with: "We appreciate your interest in our product. At this time, we have chosen to not offer a trade-in program. Thank you for your input."

You have to understand, though I work for ATN, I have my own opinions.

Just because I work for the manufacturer, doesn't mean I have to smell your **** and like it.

Your suggested approach has been tried in the past and these shills still find other excuses to bash ATN.

If ATN was doing such a bad job at customer service and with their products, we wouldn't have seen the success we saw last year with our customers. Our real customers love our products, appreciate all that the company does for them and work with us on making our product better.

ATN listens to it's customers and that is why we took all their feedback and came out with the NEW XSIGHTS 4K.

Now the shills are doing everything in their power to help their interested parties bcz there is no way else they can compete with ATN.

Let’s talk about the ballistic calculator onboard the scope



What caliber is the actor shooting and what size is the target?

What bullet weight is being shot (drag function and ballistic coefficient) at what muzzle velocity?

What is the scope sight height?

Range to target is 187 yards

Realitive humidity is 75% and wind speed is 2.3 mph from 5 o’clock position

the scope adjusted THE POINT OF IMPACT UP 8.2” and RIGHT 4.1”

This would seem to adjust POINT OF AIM down and left...

Analysis:

I’m no ballistic genius BUT I do my shooting in the field and not in a lab so.....

The gun is zeroed at 187 yards , how is a 2.3 mph wind going to result in a 8.2” shift in elevation !?!?!?

Even the 4.1” windage is somewhat suspect but let’s assume it’s a light bullet

The point of impact scale doesn’t seem to correlate to the values either

What would be the point of impact correction of a 15 mph 5 o’clock wind? 50 inches at 187 yards ?

I believe know one has tested these products all anyone has seen are prototypes they don’t know crap except what here told on videos. They know no real answers except its a game changer

How do you know? Are you part of our T&E team?
If we weren't so sure, we wouldn't have increased the recoil rating on these scopes to 416 Barrett. It wasn't bcz it sounded good, it's because the scopes have been tested on them.

Over 3000 rounds have been shot om these scopes.

Never wrestle with a pig. You get covered in mud and the pig enjoys it.

#shill

Last April I spent $2800 on a rifle optic I had never had in my hands or looked through. Why? Because it is a Night Force ATACR. The company, and the scope has built a reputation. Amd that reputatiom was good enough for me to spend that kind of money on an optic I had never tested.

ATN is building a reputation of building a bad product, and having poor customer service. In this information age, a company will never survive on a bad reputation. Even U.S. Optics used to make good scopes. Well QC has gone down hill, people are trying to unload them, and they are looking like they are in financial trouble. QC went down hill, reputation went bad, no too hard to see where this is going. ATN will do the same thing if it doesn't turn things around.

Calling people names on a forum as the official spokesman of a company is not very professional.

My offer for an impartial test, by a current owner of two of the original ATN X-Sights still stands.

I'm happy to give you a credit card number if I don't return the scope in a timely fashion you can bill me for the full retail cost. I have a Savage 110 in .308 with 30mm scope mounts on it ready for the new 4K X-Sight.

I don't have anything on the web to show you for reviews, but I'm a test and evaluation engineer for a major department of defense contractor. I have a Masters Degree in Systems Engineering. I'll be in Texas the first week in March at my cousins for a hog hunt. I'll be hunting with my X-Sights regardless.

I have an x sight II as well and this chit is why it will get traded in for a pulsar as soon as the suppressor is out of jail. They give you numerous opportunity's to make this good and have a member review it and post are real review but we are shills. F off

Any idea when you are going to listen to the customers on this board and have a sense of decency?

How do we know that you don’t actually work for pulsar, and you are just here to make ATN look bad? You’re doing a fine job of that by the way...

I just hope this thread is the first to pop up when people google the following. Cheap NV, beginners NV, ATN, poor customer service

Excellent point...

I've seen other manufacturer reps take a lot of unjustified crap in internet forums while attempting to announce a product launch, and they kept their composure and poise. Like pros, ya know?

The criticism leveled at ATN is very justified based on history which can be found right here in this very forum, and this manufacturer's rep is in here being anything but professional.


Why should I expect the service after the sale to be any better??

This escalated quickly. Can somebody tell me who sachal is? Seems like there’s some history here. I’m relatively new, so please excuse my ignorance