Crux makes great stuff. I think it’s a solid offering.

Some manufactures tried to get a standard going from what I understand but there were too many calibers and companies really didn’t want a standard as they couldn’t manipulate the numbers to for marketing purposes.

Shame on them.

It'll take the ole' boy at Precision Rifle Blog to put an unbiased test on every one he can get his hands on. He really does great work!

unless you have 10K to buy a legitimate DB meter and adhere to strict testing standards it's really impossible to get reliable data...

There just isn't THAT much difference between any of the ones that are similar size in terms of sound reduction.

Yeah I was watching a video MAC (Military arms channel) did on suppressors and that's how he basically started out. "there isn't an industry standard on measuring DB readings on a suppressor so take manufactures ratings with a grain of salt"

Which is why I came to you guys to give a feel for people who have actually handled different suppressors.

but still people cling to db ratings and they are just marketing numbers...
It was funny a number of years ago a company was bidding for a military contract which specified measurement techniques and the number in the submittal were not the same as they advertised.


At the end of the day most suppressors will get the noise down at the ear to not cause pain when fired but according to most safety standards we should still limit the exposure to sound that loud. As long as you are comparing like products as Ccoker said they are comparable.

So if most get same results then look to other features- weight, size, attach methods, company, etc

yep

I'm in a similar situation. Narrowed it down to the Griffin Recce 7, Griffin paladin or thunder beast 7cb. I'm very torn and have couple questions i haven't answered yet.

1. I assume the recce 7 and paladin main difference is sealed vs serviceable. Do u think it's worth $125 for this feature plus ability to change end caps for small calibers? Btw in already have a silencerco rim fire suppressor.

2. Thunder beast is what I considered one of the best out there based on reputation from several years ago. Never looked into it much. Is there any good reason to buy TBAC vs the Griffin Recce 7?

I have recommended this one to a lot of people
https://tacticalgunreview.com/silencer-s...t-ability-test/

another 30 cal review up.. Daniel Defense WAVE

https://tacticalgunreview.com/silencer-s...iew/#more-25340

This is for everyone: Never shoot rimfire through your centerfire suppressor. Doesn't matter if the company offers endcaps and says it's OK. Rimfire is dirty. Get a centerfire suppressor and then get a separate rimfire suppressor. And when you get the rimfire suppressor in hand, it doesn't matter how much of a hurry you are in to use that rimfire suppressor, do a silicone treatment on it FIRST and you will be able to easily clean it for the rest of the time you own it. If you don't do a silicone treatment, you will hate life trying to get it clean.
The website is down but this is an archived copy of the article. Long read so if you just want to know how to treat, scroll down 3/4 way to "Current Process".
Rimfire Suppressor Treatment



For me, serviceable and endcaps aren't worth the extra. But it might be different for others. I shoot 6.5G and 7mm Rem Mag (and others) through my 30 cal suppressor and it does a good job on them. Would it be quieter with a sized endcap? Maybe. But what if I forget the correct endcap at home? What if I shoot the .308 and it has the 6.5 endcap on it and I forgot to check? Remember, this is a lifetime purchase and it's your money. You should decide if changeable endcaps are worth $125 (plus the cost of the endcaps?). Same goes for which suppressor you think is better.

Didn't think about the possibility I could leave the smaller end caps and shoot the bigger caliber. I was leaning towards a sealed initially.

As for the "is it worth it" evaluation, of course it's up to me. I just wanna know the opinions of those who may have shot one or all of these suppressor so I can see what pros and cons they have experienced. I can easily say it's nothing or it's a big deal. That's why I ask. I should have been more clear, I'm not asking some one to make the decision for an.

I did the silicone treatment on my .22 suppressors.

I don't normally swap the endcaps on my Omegas. 5.56, 6.8 all get shot through .30 cal.

If you have front end caps that are swapable most data I have seen is that the benefit is negligible. A few dbs and sometimes the bigger end cap is quieter.

The only time I would say change is if you have two cans that look alike. Let’s say you have a saker 556 and 762. They look really similar and will cross mount. But you make want to put an end cap on one just to easily see the difference.

centerfire cans don't need to be cleaned..
I shoot 6.5, 6.8 and 7mm08 through 30 cal cans all the time..
I can't hear any difference, in theory, a 30 cal bullet will allow less gas to escape around it than say a 6.5 bullet but practical experience doesn't reveal that to the human ear.

I can't speak to the Griffin cans, but as mentioned earlier I've got a TBAC Ultra 5 can and it is most excellent. The Ultra 7 you mentioned weighs a mere 10 ounces, and I doubt you're going to beat that. The QD system is rock solid, and it has proven to be very repeatable for me. Don't take for granted that any can is going to have the same repeatable POI shift every time you take it off and put it back on. I know my YHM can isn't. They're very nice cans. There's a reason they have such a stellar reputation with the precision rifle community. I used mine on a 12.5" 6.8 SBR as well, and had no reason to think it gave up anything to some of the more popular "modular" cans folks put on their AR's like the Omega, etc. In my mind, there are very few criteria more important than weight and repeatability.

The Ultra 7 is a nice can and couldn't agree more on the repeatable POI being the number 1 priority. How bad would it suck to have your gun not be consistently accurate? They use a taper mount, same as Crux, Griffin, etc.. to me, that is the way to go, even over direct thread due to more flexibility with different rifles.

I also agree, consistent poi shift to me is the biggest criteria based on what I've learned so far.

I have heard tbac's have a good reputation for this. Not sure of the Griffin. Can't find many comments.

So are most of the taper mount ad system, which I decided was a moist have for me, the ones that are most repeatable with poi shift?

If I makes a difference, I really only have a few calibers that will be shot through this for the near future; 308, 556 and 6.5g.

Griffin was consistent

In your experience, how much was the shift with and without?

If the poi shift is as consistent and griffin also uses a tapered qd, then i think the Griffin is the clear choice for me.
This thread seemed to confirm my suspicion that serviceable was overrated for my needs. And I think I prefer the Griffin and use the savings to get multiple muzzle devices. Theyre not cheap either.

Idon't recall the shift, really depends on the host rifle
A heavy stiff barrel will usually have less shift.
My buddy just got an Optimus out of jail, haven't shot that one.
I shot the Sportsman (new and old) and the same guy has the original sportsman

Have to ask him for his opinion on both

That's it.

Which is easier to bend over your knee? 3/8" rebar 8 feet long, or 5/8" rebar 2 feet long?

If appreciate it if you could. I looked at the sportsman and thought the recce 7 had to more expensive because it's built tougher. I figured that's why the 7 has the full auto rating. But once again, if the performance is the same then I'd prefer the Griffin for cost purposes.

As for the barrel stiffness, I did not know that had some impact. However, i argue that the hosts I do have are gonna be the same for any suppressor I purchase therefore the comparison of the two cans themselves still remains a valid question is like to hear some personal experiences/opinions.

well, the sportsman has aluminum outer tube and is really designed as a "hunting" can, meaning you aren't doing a lot of shooting fast...really different applications

The Reece 7 is made to beat the snot out of, full auto, etc..
It's different construction and heavier..

I get needing a "full auto rating" if you're going to hang it on the end of a carbine and go take a training class with high volume sustained fire. Or if for some reason you're the type of person that likes to do consecutive mag dumps and just waste money. For the average guy that hunts, and likes to aim while he's shooting and stuff I don't think that full auto rating is necessary. It just makes the can heavier, and therefore makes the with/without POI shift more dramatic. Obviously, everyone has a different barrel profile and a different set of needs. But once again, I think there are more important things to worry about than if it's full auto rated or not.

I don't really get the 'with/without' argument. I bought mine to use them, and don't ever really expect to be 'without'.