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Re: Question about deer hunting and leasing my pasture for cattle
[Re: alsaenz]
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01/13/18 03:39 PM
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whtbeard
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AG exemption is the key to me. Keeping it. Without the exemption tax will go way up. You OP being a two year owner may have a little play time, but you will reach the point and the tax people will come out and look for the cows. They don't see them then you will get the nasty letter saying your're loosing your AG. Takes 5 years of running cows to get it back. Plus the taxes are real high during that time if you have a house on the property. Last year I got the letter. Had to set up an appointment, drive and meet them on site. Honked the horn and here they came. I told the girl this is how you do it, not just drive down the CR and look. Taxes remain about $3,000 on 256 acres.
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Re: Question about deer hunting and leasing my pasture for cattle
[Re: whtbeard]
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01/13/18 09:30 PM
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alsaenz
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AG exemption is the key to me. Keeping it. Without the exemption tax will go way up. You OP being a two year owner may have a little play time, but you will reach the point and the tax people will come out and look for the cows. They don't see them then you will get the nasty letter saying your're loosing your AG. Takes 5 years of running cows to get it back. Plus the taxes are real high during that time if you have a house on the property. Last year I got the letter. Had to set up an appointment, drive and meet them on site. Honked the horn and here they came. I told the girl this is how you do it, not just drive down the CR and look. Taxes remain about $3,000 on 256 acres.
For sure on keeping the AG exemption. I renewed it with the county last January (my first January to own the property) based on the fact that the neighbor with about three head of cattle continues to mow a separate 10 acres on the property for hay production. I made sure to take pictures of him mowing and then of the hay bales in my barn after he'd baled it. He's trying to get an exemption on his land based on a pasture he is cultivating and the cattle he has, and he told me it's a pretty long process.
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Re: Question about deer hunting and leasing my pasture for cattle
[Re: alsaenz]
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01/14/18 02:12 PM
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Jimbo
THF Trophy Hunter
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I've been hunting on a place for about eight years and when we got on the place the landowner told us he was going to run cattle from February until September and then remove them before bow season starts, and it is in the lease agreement. He has been true to his word, but from our experience he would put different cows into the pasture every year, and some of those cows during that time knew that feeders contain feed and we've had some cows knock down our feeders ruining them. We reinforced the legs with T posts but that doesn't keep them from congregating under the feeder waiting for it to go off. Some of the first years the cows left them alone, but it only takes one that knows they can push them over, so my advise would be to fence them off if you run cattle. Cattle have some advantages as they keep the tall weeds knocked down especially where you can't mow.
Last edited by Jimbo; 01/14/18 02:16 PM.
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: Question about deer hunting and leasing my pasture for cattle
[Re: alsaenz]
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01/14/18 06:53 PM
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okietex
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Its your land put in writing the dates they can put them on and when they must be removed. Charge a monthly rate per each momma. Write in their once they are of weaning age they either have to go or be charged a monthly rate. $25 a head per month should work. Hey, its your land and your terms.
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Re: Question about deer hunting and leasing my pasture for cattle
[Re: alsaenz]
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01/14/18 06:54 PM
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okietex
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Oh write in a maintenance schedule. Spraying, fertilizers, and fencing. You should provide a operable fence and roads though.
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Re: Question about deer hunting and leasing my pasture for cattle
[Re: Jimbo]
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01/14/18 07:08 PM
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bronco71
Pro Tracker
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I've been hunting on a place for about eight years and when we got on the place the landowner told us he was going to run cattle from February until September and then remove them before bow season starts, and it is in the lease agreement. He has been true to his word, but from our experience he would put different cows into the pasture every year, and some of those cows during that time knew that feeders contain feed and we've had some cows knock down our feeders ruining them. We reinforced the legs with T posts but that doesn't keep them from congregating under the feeder waiting for it to go off. Some of the first years the cows left them alone, but it only takes one that knows they can push them over, so my advise would be to fence them off if you run cattle. Cattle have some advantages as they keep the tall weeds knocked down especially where you can't mow. 4 T posts and some wire will keep the cattle away from the feeder....
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Re: Question about deer hunting and leasing my pasture for cattle
[Re: Texas Dan]
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01/15/18 12:16 AM
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alsaenz
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One of the tracts that I hunt is roughly 70 acres of pasture and 30 acres of hardwood? The landowner runs about 20 head of cattle on it. Without any feeders and food plots, I saw more deer on that 30 acres this year than I did on another, heavily wooded 100 acre tract that has both a food plot and feeder on it. After looking at satellite images, I found several pinch points that made it a natural deer highway to and from adjacent properties. I placed stands at these pinch points and saw deer on 90% of the hunts. Dan, are the cattle on the property year-round, or just in the off-season?
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Re: Question about deer hunting and leasing my pasture for cattle
[Re: alsaenz]
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01/20/18 12:27 AM
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Wilhunt
THF Trophy Hunter
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THF Trophy Hunter
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Lease it until September.
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