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Agree with all but the wolves. Though the white man played a role in the demise of the Buffalo mainly for monetary reasons, the wolf was targeted for trade and eradication to protect introduced live stock, this created a big void in the predator prey and balance of other smaller predators.

I read Rinella's book recently and am still working my way through Flores's. Flores's book is an interesting read, even though I disagree with a lot of his stances, especially considering feral horse herds. He's on the side that feral horse herds should be allowed to roam the plains because evolutionary/fossil evidence suggests that horses evolved in North America and migrated to Europe. Using that same train of thought, though, you could argue that cave bears and steppe lions should be reintroduced, should you be able to clone one from fossilized DNA. Horses went extinct in North America for a reason; reintroduction is an anthropological influence on the ecosystem. While we do that all the time, doing so and claiming it's the restoration of the natural order is contradictory.

That's all off-topic, sorry, but yes they're very interesting books worth reading. I'm a young world theorist, and don't believe in speciation, which much of the book deals with, but there's lots in there worth reading. Flores certainly let his personal views flavor the text, but its his book to do with as he pleases and there's nothing wrong with that. Just because I don't agree with it doesn't mean I don't enjoy reading it!

White man and Native Indians played a role for monetary reasons.

The Mexican wolf should of been recovered by all means, as it is in NM, AZ and MX Now the introduction into Yellowstone should of not happened. Big void always gets filled if allowed to be fill. Yellowstone NP was allowed to get to 17k elk. It could of easy been brought down to and/ or kept at post Wolf numbers(4K) by hunting

No, I don�t.

I find your inability to stay on topic, make sweeping generalizations, and then try to dig yourself out of holes by going off down Alice�s rabbit hole with all sorts of strange non-topical crap hilarious too.

You do it constantly.

You�re �once it�s gone, it should stay gone� broadside is silly, and the antithesis of the entire North American conservation model you claim to adhere to. You obviously have not a clue about what wildlife conservation is, much less support it.

Who do you think introduced money into the equation?

Your second paragraph has nothing to do with the topic.

First of all this isn�t an interjection to you. I was committing on two books and one of the authors view just like another poster. you have read neither so you have no comment, so you are doing exactly what you claim I�m doing. You

But to humor you If it�s gone you can�t bring it back. It�s GONE!! Nothing to bring back. It�s extinct.

If elk where extinct from North America it�s a bad idea to introduce Red stag cuz they share DNA.

If Dall sheep are gone you don�t replace them with Argali.

I can go on. Can Whitetails compete with Axis breeding habitats, do axis deer impact native flora same as a Whitetail? What about Aoudads vs Desert Bighorns.

If interior grizzlies went extinct should of we just imported a bunch of Kodiak Bears to Montana? Both Grizzlies

Seriously you are dense, Almost gone is not gone but Gone is gone, My view didn�t mention eradicating a native species. You can�t bring back species once it�s gown. If you bring in a non native species from another continent or country you are playing with fire.

The original Yellowstone wolf is GONE, thus the introduction of a debatable sub species that 30% bigger that�s playing with fire(example-Hydatid Disease/Echinococcus granulosus )

The current wild burros and wild horses are non native sub species, they should be gone from the public landscape.

I have my moments, obviously I am not the only one. Gray wolves were the indigenous wolves of Yellowstone and that was what was captured and reintroduced from the same genus out of Canada, so what is your dense point?

As a matter of fact the reintroduction has helped balance the ecosystem!

Please share with all where you come up with a Hybrid that is 30% bigger??

I have my moments, obviously I am not the only one. Gray wolves were the indigenous wolves of Yellowstone and that was what was captured and reintroduced from the same genus out of Canada, so what is your dense point?

As a matter of fact the reintroduction has helped balance the ecosystem!

Please share with all where you come up with a Hybrid that is 30% bigger??