Gotta be a classic

Marc,

With all due respect, it is more than a communication gap. Instant personal attacks delivered with a rude and condescending approach are a personality trait.

Most of us (including you and I)communicate here as we would in person. We don't hide behind an online persona and immediately belittle people who try to offer and opposing view for open discussion.

Respectfully,

Marc Kurth
Bastrop County Texas

Good point that I wouldn't begin to try to dispute or defend.

garvey is not guilty free in this whole Fiasco he did egg him on in the beginning, and does have a propensity to talk down to you.

Agree 100%.....he could be a very valuable contributor with a wealth of knowledge to share.....but he instead chooses to be a arrogant AH instead of a productive contributor.....sad really.....

So, back to the OP's question, .308 or 6.5(CM) in 17". Which one?

I'll take the lightest weight, lightest recoil, and shortest barrel(w/o paperwork hassle) at lowest cost that's still dependable and accurate.
I have a Tikka, love the action/accuracy, but also have a Ruger or two that get the job done at much lower cost.

I think I would go with Ruger American Predator in 6.5 and 16 1/8 bbl for hunting deer/hog/predators.

Does anyone make a 16" bolt action in 6.5?

I am nice to nice people. I can get just as rude to rude people. That is all.

I try real hard to not hurt feelings, but I am blunt, often.

Couple good ideas right there^^

Plenty of lathes out there to cut and thread a barrel.

Who is write?

......hint

I just read all 137 pages (in dog years) of this thread. CLASSIC!

What I gained is additional enforcement of the old adage that nobody knows everything about any subject.

And changes in latitudes does mean changes in attitudes.

I have a 20" 308 and a 16.5" 6.5CM. The Creedmor was specifically built for suppressed hunting. I went cheap and cut down a American Predator and threw it into a Boyd's stock. It's "good enough" for now but I need to bed it, the Boyd's fitment is pretty bad. I need to shoot it in the factory stock and compare groups.
It's handy without the suppressor.

The one topic he would have to have been an expert on was what to use on weapons to prevent rust.

True and I did not see that shared in any of the posts

the only time I saw he mentioned rust was showing how Gisele triggers would rust in his environment.

Krylon and electric tape, as far as I could tell.

Update: Took my Tikka T3x CTR Kreedmire to the gunsmith today, he'll be chopping it down to 17" and re threading. I'll run it suppressed exclusively, with my TBAC Ultra 7 for a 24" overall barrel length. I'm thinking it's gonna be the bees knees...

I like that RAP in 6.5cm with the forest camo Boyd’s. Doesn’t surprise me it needs some fitting though. Let us know how it shoots after you get it straightened out..

I’ve thought of trying an RAP in 6 or 6.5 creed a few times lately, the stock options are what has kept me from it. It’s either Boyds or an MDT LSS as far as I can tell

awesome.. that is precisely how I look at it

Here it is guys, chopped and threaded at 17" with a TBAC Ultra 7, recently dropped into a McMillan Game Hunter stock inlet for the factory bottom metal. I really like it..

Yeah, they are handy!

I'm currently agonizing trying to decide between having my .308 rebarreled into a 17" CM or building an 18" CM gas gun. I've wanted a bolt gun like TexFlips since I first laid eyes on it. It will cost about the same either way so I suppose I just need to flip a coin and go for it.

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I think short bolt actions shine. A gas gun will NEVER shoot as tight, and consistent as a bolt action. And a bolt action will shoot the same bullet faster.

However, one of my best victories is my "sounder rifle", an LR-308 16", with a hand load of 155 gr TMKs, and suppressor. When I see the large sounder of hogs, it does its' job well, which is lay down lots of fire, very quick. But if I had to pick what to carry 365 days a year, it's gonna be a bolt action, 100% sure.

I wish more people bought Magnetospeeds and figured out how easy it is to work a free ballistics calculator. There would be so much more meaningful, data driven discussion about things like this.

I’ve got a Creedmoor with a 21” barrel. Been shooting 120’s at 2900fps. Shot some 140’s yesterday. Lost 250fps with the heavier bullets. Even so, it catches up to the 120 at 400 yards, and it saves me .5 mil of wind hold at 600 yards.

BC is the king, and trumps muzzle velocity in the end. If you are going to have a short barrel with low velocity range: pick one that shoots the highest BC pills. If you are only hunting and never shoot past 300 yards to begin with.... it doesn’t make a sh!t which you pick. Dance with who brung ya, and break out the hacksaw.

Shorty bolt guns sure are handy and fun to shoot. I've got all my short action bolt guns cut down to 16.25".