Hoax, scam, or for real? What says the THF? Keep it kid friendly and out of the bunker...

I couldn’t say. I haven’t done the research.

However, my thinking is that people are trying to avoid something that is natural and supposed to happen. We may not like it, but that’s the way it works. Messing with things that naturally happen to our bodies seems like a bad idea to me. There’s plenty of natural ways to keep your testosterone from declining too rapidly. I would explore those options first.

Sneaky, that's what I keep telling my wife! By the way, our best friends are from Winters.

Not a hoax or scam at all. For some, it is genetics, for others they don't eat right, and there are those that have a disease or other issue that affects testosterone levels. Tried all the patches, gels, etc. Started on the bi-weekly injections and only regret I have is not doing it sooner. At 57 and 275 lbs I pay more attention to proteins and carbs, consume less sugar, eat less fast food. Try to hit the gym at least twice a week, sometimes 3 or 4 times depending on how I feel which is usually dictated by how much of, and quality of sleep.

It's real. Lots of Firemen are on therapy. The reason ours drops prematurely is due to lack of sleep, and constant interrupted sleep.

Set the jokes aside, we have heart attacks and strokes in our 30's, 40's, and 50's also due to terrible sleep patterns, that are involuntary.

^^^This. Poor nutrition, lack of sleep, and inactivity with sedentary lifestyles and of course genetics all contribute. Pharma is making big jack on this too but it's a natural part of aging.

Sounds like the life of a parent.

I tend to think its more people wanting to be something they aren't anymore and for many it serves the purpose of the little blue pill without admitting they need/want the little blue pill. I have no first hand, never done any of it never will.

I thought all firemen did all day was cook, lift weights, and wash trucks.

Some young guys commenting on this thread. Never say never. And that's all I have to say about that!

How in the world does Testosterone substitute for a blue pill? Testosterone has nothing to do with the ability to have an erection.

I just see the advertisements on tv all the time about "oh and she'll like it too" wink wink and "make you the man you used to be" bring back and increase "passion" lol and the list goes on, if its not an effect of it they sure are trying to advertise that it is.

Life of a parent for a child that never grows up. So you're saying there's no case for lack of sleep, low testosterone, stress and heart attacks among U.S. Firemen? Be sure and tell that to the 100 families that have to endure those deaths every year.

You thought wrong.

Nope, life of a parent was pretty much the only thing there towards your comment, the rest is just my general thoughts of it.

Those are for erectile dysfunction meds, not testosterone. Testosterone is a vital hormone that seriously aids in body repair and rebuild. Thus making it very important for recovery, and heart health. I think you stuck your foot in your mouth on this one.

TKM you might do some research and talk to your doc about increasing your injection frequency. The half-life of test cypionate is 3.5 days. By 7 days you're already at almost zero again. So you're T levels are seesawing. IMO you would be better of cutting your dose in half and taking it once a week rather bi-weekly if your doc doesn't want to double your dose frequency. Every week is pretty standard across the treatment field.

Testosterone absolutely has effects on erections and libido. Treating hypogonadism is no different than treating blood sugar in diabetics, high blood pressure, a rapid heart rate, or thyroid problems. It's a testable lab value. Arguing that it's a natural part of aging so it shouldn't be treated is like arguing that you shouldn't treat cancer because we're all going to get it eventually. When your parents get diagnosed with Atrial Fibrillation or have a stroke...eh...it's part of aging just let it happen.

Low T centers are definitely banking on it. But it's not any different then opening a cancer center because more and more of us are being diagnosed with cancer.

Maybe you were joking, but unless you want hungry scrawny fireman responding to pull your family from a burning house, I sure wouldn't be complaining that their job has some down time between calls!

Exbellicus, I have and been thinking about doing just that. I usually try to time the injections for a Thursday so I am good for the weekend and Thursday night through Sunday nights are when I hit the gym the most. My oldest son does his weekly and says that works best for him.

Maybe I'm wrong, I'm not a doctor by a long shot, but I do know I have seen the slew of selling points attached to testosterone therapy stuff. Or stuff on TV that is advertised as such, maybe a completely different thing, I don't know, but perhaps the process/treatment yal are talking about is something different than what limited knowledge has my mind made up to.

I have it and I have had if or the past few years. I was tired all the time, not in the best of moods, just didn't want to do much of anything. Went to the doctor and ran blood work and my testosterone was REALLY low.. went to urologist and got me on weekly shots that I could do at home and in a couple weeks started feeling so much better. Had energy, wasn't moody, and just felt better. I also got stronger in the weight room... (not that it mattered but was pretty cool)..

the only thing I didn't like was giving myself the shots so for a while I have been off of them and feel like crap again. they make other options and im gonna look into them. So low T is a real thing but it is pretty easy to fix

About the 3rd shot..........you go wow

weiner gets bigger and your nuts shrink.

Shoot up every 4th day.....7 days will make you angry.

Rocket fuel for Prostate cancer. I have to get checked soon and it will suck. Like nike said just do it.

Having healthy natural testosterone levels and healthy artificial testosterone levels is the same thing and studies have shown have no effect on prostate cancer or PSA screening bloodwork.

On top of that, we're all going to get prostate cancer eventually. Fortunately it's usually slow growing and frequently not treated in elderly men.

If you ask me the quality of life you get not being tired with low libido and extra bodyfat for the last 20 years of your life would be worth the risk anyway.

Anyone that is over 40 and not doing Test boosts are missing out on the best part of middle age. All of the wisdom of age and the drive of a teenager. Quicker injury recovery, better sleep, lower body fat, and a feeling of general wellness. Test and HGH ARE the "Fountain of Youth".

test boost? Replacement therapy?

I have started taking magnesium and zinc supplements and have noticed a difference in work outs and sleep. Much cheaper too.