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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: SnakeWrangler]
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09/19/22 04:06 PM
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TurkeyHunter
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My regular doctor, family physician. I’d trust them more than someone selling a T program. Just get your doc to do a blood test or include it in your annual.
If you haven’t had an annual physical in awhile then go get one.
Study T delivery methods before going to your doc. That way you’re informed. Be prepared to give yourself injections. Not a big deal.
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: SnakeWrangler]
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10/31/22 05:23 AM
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DocHorton
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For you guys on the T shots....at what age did you start taking them? Are you planning on taking them forever?
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Re: Low "T"?
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10/31/22 01:49 PM
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nsmike
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My regular doctor, family physician. I’d trust them more than someone selling a T program. Just get your doc to do a blood test or include it in your annual.
If you haven’t had an annual physical in awhile then go get one.
Study T delivery methods before going to your doc. That way you’re informed. Be prepared to give yourself injections. Not a big deal. I see my Urologist yearly, we talked about it and ran the test, I was right in the middle. Nothing beats having the proper test and knowing for sure.
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: SnakeWrangler]
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02/18/23 10:40 PM
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This a long thread and I have not read every post so if this has been discussed, let me know. Has anyone tried Nugenix or another low T supplement instead of going to TRT? I asked my primary during my last physical and he recommended it.
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: presley]
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02/19/23 05:08 AM
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This a long thread and I have not read every post so if this has been discussed, let me know. Has anyone tried Nugenix or another low T supplement instead of going to TRT? I asked my primary during my last physical and he recommended it. Mine has tested ‘almost’ low several times consistently, around 350-380. I started taking this one after reading reviews and asking around.I’ve been taking it not quite a year. It’s $100 a month at GNC (in store). Tested two weeks ago, I was 682! I’m a believer. https://www.gnc.com/testosterone-support-1/967103.html#q=Pmd%2Btestosterone&lang=default&start=3 ![[Linked Image]](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0608/3680/6914/products/PMD-FLEXSTACK-Advanced-40846-WebPS_1024x.png)
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Re: Low "T"?
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02/19/23 02:52 PM
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This a long thread and I have not read every post so if this has been discussed, let me know. Has anyone tried Nugenix or another low T supplement instead of going to TRT? I asked my primary during my last physical and he recommended it. Mine has tested ‘almost’ low several times consistently, around 350-380. I started taking this one after reading reviews and asking around.I’ve been taking it not quite a year. It’s $100 a month at GNC (in store). Tested two weeks ago, I was 682! I’m a believer. https://www.gnc.com/testosterone-support-1/967103.html#q=Pmd%2Btestosterone&lang=default&start=3 ![[Linked Image]](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0608/3680/6914/products/PMD-FLEXSTACK-Advanced-40846-WebPS_1024x.png) Can you bust rocks with it?
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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02/19/23 03:22 PM
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This a long thread and I have not read every post so if this has been discussed, let me know. Has anyone tried Nugenix or another low T supplement instead of going to TRT? I asked my primary during my last physical and he recommended it. Mine has tested ‘almost’ low several times consistently, around 350-380. I started taking this one after reading reviews and asking around.I’ve been taking it not quite a year. It’s $100 a month at GNC (in store). Tested two weeks ago, I was 682! I’m a believer. https://www.gnc.com/testosterone-support-1/967103.html#q=Pmd%2Btestosterone&lang=default&start=3 ![[Linked Image]](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0608/3680/6914/products/PMD-FLEXSTACK-Advanced-40846-WebPS_1024x.png) why wouldnt you just do test replacement, its same cost a month and be at 800-900 and 20-25 free T
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: SnakeWrangler]
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02/19/23 03:26 PM
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jetdad
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Be sure you have your blood drawn at the same time of day. Testosterone is higher in the morning than it is in the afternoon. Establish a good baseline to go from.
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: presley]
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02/21/23 02:57 PM
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This a long thread and I have not read every post so if this has been discussed, let me know. Has anyone tried Nugenix or another low T supplement instead of going to TRT? I asked my primary during my last physical and he recommended it. I use Nugenix Ultimate and ZMA. Take the ZMA nightly and cycle the Ultimate month on 2 weeks off. Last T test was 687 I believe.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: txtrophy85]
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03/06/23 03:25 PM
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This a long thread and I have not read every post so if this has been discussed, let me know. Has anyone tried Nugenix or another low T supplement instead of going to TRT? I asked my primary during my last physical and he recommended it. I use Nugenix Ultimate and ZMA. Take the ZMA nightly and cycle the Ultimate month on 2 weeks off. Last T test was 687 I believe. What was it prior?
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: SnakeWrangler]
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03/07/23 02:08 AM
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Dave Davidson
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I just turned 80 and went to the sidelines about 7 or 8 years ago. I tried the blue pill and a couple of others without any good effects.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: SnakeWrangler]
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03/07/23 03:12 AM
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A few years ago i went from 1ml every 14 days to 1/2ml each week. Four shots a month cost me $8.12
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: SnakeWrangler]
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08/03/23 12:40 AM
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Ramsey
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My T level was 27 2 years ago instead of 600. Started taking moderate dose testosterone (about $30 a month) and my cognative ability recovered to normal. I am in the best health currently than anytime in yhe past 15 years. I will lose eventually, but wade war on father time by lifting weights and being active.
Big Beckett!!
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Re: Low "T"?
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08/05/23 04:11 PM
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Just when I think my T has hit rock bottom, I'll have a burst of anger and want to tear a fence down with my bare hands. Lol.
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: Grit]
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08/07/23 08:47 PM
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txtrophy85
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Just when I think my T has hit rock bottom, I'll have a burst of anger and want to tear a fence down with my bare hands. Lol. My wife rages like that too…it isn’t a sign of high test levels
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Low "T"?
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10/17/23 03:52 PM
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So I’m going down this path currently. Been feeling extremely anxious out of no where, like crazy anxious. I feel extremely tired from the time I wake until bedtime. My focus and energy have declined significantly in a short time. So, I did a panel on Saturday, and a panel on Monday which both reveled low t levels. Everything else seems really good but I did ask for a sleep study too. Personally, I think I have a little sleep apnea which could be driving this issue. We’ll see, but as of now, they put me on a small anti depressant which I don’t want, but I’ll accept it for now until we get through the sleep study. I’m only 41, so I’m somewhat shocked at the low levels but glad I have some reasoning for my current mental state. I really don’t want to take hormone injections at my age, but I’ll report back with progress after the sleep study and the plan. For the record, I’m at 191 this morning
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Re: Low "T"?
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10/17/23 08:04 PM
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bigbob_ftw
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So I’m going down this path currently. Been feeling extremely anxious out of no where, like crazy anxious. I feel extremely tired from the time I wake until bedtime. My focus and energy have declined significantly in a short time. So, I did a panel on Saturday, and a panel on Monday which both reveled low t levels. Everything else seems really good but I did ask for a sleep study too. Personally, I think I have a little sleep apnea which could be driving this issue. We’ll see, but as of now, they put me on a small anti depressant which I don’t want, but I’ll accept it for now until we get through the sleep study. I’m only 41, so I’m somewhat shocked at the low levels but glad I have some reasoning for my current mental state. I really don’t want to take hormone injections at my age, but I’ll report back with progress after the sleep study and the plan. For the record, I’m at 191 this morning could very well be apnea. I have a sever case and have been on a cpap since my 20's. can't sleep without it now.
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Re: Low "T"?
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10/17/23 09:06 PM
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My wife swears up and down that I snore, but I don’t believe her ![grin grin](/forum/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif)
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Re: Low "T"?
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10/17/23 09:13 PM
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My wife swears up and down that I snore, but I don’t believe her ![grin grin](/forum/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif) ENT can probably help with that snoring. I would try anything first to avoid that damn CPAP.
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Re: Low "T"?
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10/18/23 02:25 AM
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txtrophy85
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This a long thread and I have not read every post so if this has been discussed, let me know. Has anyone tried Nugenix or another low T supplement instead of going to TRT? I asked my primary during my last physical and he recommended it. I use Nugenix Ultimate and ZMA. Take the ZMA nightly and cycle the Ultimate month on 2 weeks off. Last T test was 687 I believe. Update…. Had to get off Nugenix. Liver enzymes were elevated to a point that I was risking liver damage. Will test for testosterone levels and report back.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Low "T"?
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12/05/23 02:38 PM
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This is something I have researched a lot. There is lots of evidence that most men don't have "low T". It is now being shown your T doesn't get lower as we age like they think. Low T is mostly due to poor diets. Most men don't eat enough good fats. T is dispersed throughout your system through good fat cells (Olive oil, coconut oil, avocados, fish oil, etc.). I had my T levels checked two years ago and they were low. I now eat one meal a day, the meal is very large but all good, healthy food. I eat a protein, vegetable, spinach salad with avocado, 3 eggs, peppers, carrots with hummus, cup of nuts and then a bowl of cottage cheese with various berries and some honey and scoop of all natural peanut butter. I started lifting weights again and drink a all natrual bone broth protein powder after working out but otherwise fast between my one meal. At my last doctors visit my T levels were through the roof and she told me I had higher T than most 10 years younger than me.
Point is, taking artificial T boosters etc isn' the answer, fuel yourself properly. Im 42 years old and the transformation my body has gone through the last 5 months is astounding. Im planning my first 3 day fast pretty soon and lots of research that shows that will increase T levels as well drop you bad cholestoral, etc, thought mine is very low now.
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Re: Low "T"?
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12/05/23 04:18 PM
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I started lifting weights again and drink a all natrual bone broth protein powder after working out but otherwise fast between my one meal. At my last doctors visit my T levels were through the roof and she told me I had higher T than most 10 years younger than me. I'm curious about this bone broth protein. I had a knee pop a couple of months ago and went from walking 2-3 miles a day to barely walking. The Orthopedic doctor said I have an arthritic cyst in that knee. He said he doesn't see the need for knee replacement yet, which is great. However, this knee is giving me Hell! After reading your post a quick search finds numerous credible medical institutions that say bone broth protein might help osteoarthritis. In years past there have been plenty of articles saying that without regulation some supplements are pixie dust vs. something beneficial. What brand of bone broth protein are you using?
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Re: Low "T"?
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12/05/23 04:48 PM
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coachwhite34
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![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2023/12/full-33365-407601-screenshot_2023_12_05_at_10.47.49am.png) Purchased from Amazon If you are a deer hunter like myself, we make our own bone broth from the deer we kill, heat it up and drink a bowl a day.
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Re: Low "T"?
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12/05/23 05:06 PM
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DannyB
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Thanks for the feedback Coach! I'll ask the Ortho doc at my next visit what he thinks. I'll try anything to avoid surgery.
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Re: Low "T"?
[Re: coachwhite34]
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12/05/23 05:11 PM
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Texican
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This is something I have researched a lot. There is lots of evidence that most men don't have "low T". It is now being shown your T doesn't get lower as we age like they think. Low T is mostly due to poor diets. Most men don't eat enough good fats. T is dispersed throughout your system through good fat cells (Olive oil, coconut oil, avocados, fish oil, etc.). I had my T levels checked two years ago and they were low. I now eat one meal a day, the meal is very large but all good, healthy food. I eat a protein, vegetable, spinach salad with avocado, 3 eggs, peppers, carrots with hummus, cup of nuts and then a bowl of cottage cheese with various berries and some honey and scoop of all natural peanut butter. I started lifting weights again and drink a all natrual bone broth protein powder after working out but otherwise fast between my one meal. At my last doctors visit my T levels were through the roof and she told me I had higher T than most 10 years younger than me.
Point is, taking artificial T boosters etc isn' the answer, fuel yourself properly. Im 42 years old and the transformation my body has gone through the last 5 months is astounding. Im planning my first 3 day fast pretty soon and lots of research that shows that will increase T levels as well drop you bad cholestoral, etc, thought mine is very low now. I assume food intake is the primary driver in your success. But what about the fasting piece? Did you change diets first, and then fast? Or was it all at once. Trying to quantify the benefits of each. I truly do not think I could make it on one meal a day (for various reasons) .
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