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04/22/09 07:13 AM
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Anyone know if its legal to carry a concealed handgun in a vehicle to Louisiana from Texas without having a CHL???
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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My family has lived there for the past 40 or so years and my uncle has a permit and carries there. I think the vehicle/gun issue in Loosiana is vague. I think the law there does not specifically state that its illegal to carry in a car but you are supposed to have a parish by parish license for state citizens. I dont think they have an out of state permit in Loosiana either. I could be wrong though. You can find the real deal here, Im just too lazy right now to go through it. Louisiana Revised Statutes (L.R.S.) Title 14 Sections 95; 95.1; 95.2; 95.6; 95.7; 95.8. http://www.legis.state.la.us/I would think that if you didnt look crazy or be wanted anywhere, most police would turn a blind eye to an out of stater gun carrier traveling through their juristiction. But it is always a risk you have to decide on and I hear the state police are pretty cool there. Good luck
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 05:02 PM
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If it is concealed in your car, what does it really matter? If your not breaking any laws, your not going to get pulled over anyway. If you are an average citizen, a cop is not going to search your car. If a cop does ask to search your car, just tell him that you have civil rights that protect you from unwarranted searches. Most likely they will bring out a drug dog and as long as you don't have any drugs you should be fine.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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Thanks Yall
Yeah, I am not really too worried about it, was just curious. I have carried there before after the hurricane. I wouldnt have gone with out one then.
My uncles best friend is assistant DA where I am going anyways. I could probably ask him if I see him, lol
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 07:14 PM
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Yeah, I am not really too worried about it, was just curious. I have carried there before after the hurricane. I wouldnt have gone with out one then.
My uncles best friend is assistant DA where I am going anyways. I could probably ask him if I see him, lol
I just moved here from Louisiana, and yes you can carry in your car. In Louisiana your car is an extension of your house. Louisiana is also a open carry state.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 08:16 PM
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If it is concealed in your car, what does it really matter? If your not breaking any laws, your not going to get pulled over anyway. If you are an average citizen, a cop is not going to search your car. If a cop does ask to search your car, just tell him that you have civil rights that protect you from unwarranted searches. Most likely they will bring out a drug dog and as long as you don't have any drugs you should be fine.
its not wise to refuse a search if you have nothing to hide, it sort of gets under their skin if you refuse....just be up front and honest and tell them you are traveling and before he searches (if it gets that far) tell him you have a weapon in the car and tell him where it is.
they will appreciate it and most likely not give you any trouble.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 09:32 PM
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If it is concealed in your car, what does it really matter? If your not breaking any laws, your not going to get pulled over anyway. If you are an average citizen, a cop is not going to search your car. If a cop does ask to search your car, just tell him that you have civil rights that protect you from unwarranted searches. Most likely they will bring out a drug dog and as long as you don't have any drugs you should be fine.
its not wise to refuse a search if you have nothing to hide, it sort of gets under their skin if you refuse....just be up front and honest and tell them you are traveling and before he searches (if it gets that far) tell him you have a weapon in the car and tell him where it is.
they will appreciate it and most likely not give you any trouble.
 , I will refuse any search. I let them search one time, and they tore my car apart on I-10, and didn't put crap back together. That was the first and last time someone will search my car without a warrant. And that probable cause crap, they had better have their ducks in a row, because my camera will catch them if they don't. And I promise I will spend the rest of my days making sure they get fired, and I will sue them and the county, and the state.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 09:38 PM
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easy turbo...i was just stating my opinion.
but if you keep refusing searches you are probably going to keep gettin your truck tore apart.
i have never personally been searched but i have been involved in plenty of searches on the police end of it.
good luck with the camera...if they are violating your rights then they need to be caught.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 09:46 PM
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easy turbo...i was just stating my opinion.
but if you keep refusing searches you are probably going to keep gettin your truck tore apart.
i have never personally been searched but i have been involved in plenty of searches on the police end of it.
good luck with the camera...if they are violating your rights then they need to be caught.
No I consented to the search where they tore my car apart. Have never been searched since, since I always say no. By refusing the search gives the police no right to assume you are guilty of anything. I will not give up my rights.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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just depends on the circumstances...where you are, what time it is...etc.
i have seen lots of people that refused a search and very rarely are they ridin' clean.
most of the time when they refuse they just hope the dog doesnt get called and if the dog is not within a reasonable distance to respond to the traffic stop and the suspect will have to wait an unreasonable amount of time on the side of the road then they get set free with no search.
most of the time the k9 unit does respond pretty quick and it usually turns out with a narcotics seizure...ive seen up to 254 pounds of marijuana found by a dog and ive also seen just one marijuana seed found by the dog.
lots of people think they have to have a lot of dope for the dog to alert but thats not the case, they will alert on just residue alone if there is any in the car.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 09:59 PM
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just depends on the circumstances...where you are, what time it is...etc.
i have seen lots of people that refused a search and very rarely are they ridin' clean.
most of the time when they refuse they just hope the dog doesnt get called and if the dog is not within a reasonable distance to respond to the traffic stop and the suspect will have to wait an unreasonable amount of time on the side of the road then they get set free with no search.
most of the time the k9 unit does respond pretty quick and it usually turns out with a narcotics seizure...ive seen up to 254 pounds of marijuana found by a dog and ive also seen just one marijuana seed found by the dog.
lots of people think they have to have a lot of dope for the dog to alert but thats not the case, they will alert on just residue alone if there is any in the car.
No, it is irrelevant what time and where I am. This is American and I have the right to go where I want when I want. As long as I am not breaking any laws, and I have the right to do that without being harassed.
Just remember they can not legally hold you for a longer period of time than a normal traffic stop takes. If they do they are breaking the law again. All it takes if for me to request their records to prove if I was held for a longer period of time. Then if that happened I will again file suit. I am tired of our rights being trampled on in the name of busting someone else. Please pull me over and hold me there, I need a lump sum payment. Like I said in another post I have a friend that makes his living suing police that violate his rights.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 10:04 PM
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just depends on the circumstances...where you are, what time it is...etc.
i have seen lots of people that refused a search and very rarely are they ridin' clean.
most of the time when they refuse they just hope the dog doesnt get called and if the dog is not within a reasonable distance to respond to the traffic stop and the suspect will have to wait an unreasonable amount of time on the side of the road then they get set free with no search.
most of the time the k9 unit does respond pretty quick and it usually turns out with a narcotics seizure...ive seen up to 254 pounds of marijuana found by a dog and ive also seen just one marijuana seed found by the dog.
lots of people think they have to have a lot of dope for the dog to alert but thats not the case, they will alert on just residue alone if there is any in the car.
Just remember they can not legally hold you for a longer period of time than a normal traffic stop takes. If they do they are breaking the law again. All it takes if for me to request their records to prove if I was held for a longer period of time. Then if that happened I will again file suit. I am tired of our rights being trampled on in the name of busting someone else. Please pull me over and hold me there, I need a lump sum payment. Like I said in another post I have a friend that makes his living suing police that violate his rights.
yeah you are right. they cant hold you for an unreasonable amount of time.
unreasonable amount of time will have to be defined in court when the suspect goes to court.
if he is in possesion of narcotics and especially if its a large amount the judge is prolly going to side with LE agency....then i guess it would be like you are saying
a battle of lawyers. but the jury is going to hang the drug trafficker.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 10:16 PM
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just depends on the circumstances...where you are, what time it is...etc.
i have seen lots of people that refused a search and very rarely are they ridin' clean.
most of the time when they refuse they just hope the dog doesnt get called and if the dog is not within a reasonable distance to respond to the traffic stop and the suspect will have to wait an unreasonable amount of time on the side of the road then they get set free with no search.
most of the time the k9 unit does respond pretty quick and it usually turns out with a narcotics seizure...ive seen up to 254 pounds of marijuana found by a dog and ive also seen just one marijuana seed found by the dog.
lots of people think they have to have a lot of dope for the dog to alert but thats not the case, they will alert on just residue alone if there is any in the car.
Just remember they can not legally hold you for a longer period of time than a normal traffic stop takes. If they do they are breaking the law again. All it takes if for me to request their records to prove if I was held for a longer period of time. Then if that happened I will again file suit. I am tired of our rights being trampled on in the name of busting someone else. Please pull me over and hold me there, I need a lump sum payment. Like I said in another post I have a friend that makes his living suing police that violate his rights.
yeah you are right. they cant hold you for an unreasonable amount of time.
unreasonable amount of time will have to be defined in court when the suspect goes to court.
if he is in possesion of narcotics and especially if its a large amount the judge is prolly going to side with LE agency....then i guess it would be like you are saying
a battle of lawyers. but the jury is going to hang the drug trafficker.
True, but I am a law abiding citizen. Never been arrested, and will never be caught with drugs, because I don't do drugs. I just want my rights protected. I also want any LEO that are breaking the constitution to be fired. 
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 10:21 PM
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This idea that all police are good cops and you dont have to worry about them is TOATL BS!!!
Ive been told straight up by a pig (a corrupt police officer) that he had "No probable cause" but was going to search my car anyway even though I refused. He and his "supervisor" searched and searched then came up with a marijuana seed that he said he found on the floorboard that both of them had been "searching" for about 10 minutes. After he handcuffed me for a freaking seed, they continue searching the car, taking turns on each side of the car for another 10 minutes. Then the "supervisor" magically comes up with a joint that he claims he found on the same floorboard he founf the seed on. REALLY?!?! The same place as the seed and he managed to overlook an entire joint?!?!?! PAALLLEEEAAAASSSEEE.
2 years later, the case gets dismissed and the last I heard, the cop got fired for lying on his police report for my case.
I have also been a first hand witness to other police, people I used to call friends, behave in similar fashion.
Quit trying to take up for these slime balls, Cleatas. Good cops are good cops, they arent who we are talking about here. Good cops stick to procedure and rein themselves in when needed. Pigs do what they want and abuse their power.
When police tell me I have to protect myself against the big bad wolf, some of those wolves are cops.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 10:25 PM
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This idea that all police are good cops and you dont have to worry about them is TOATL BS!!!
Ive been told straight up by a pig (a corrupt police officer) that he had "No probable cause" but was going to search my car anyway even though I refused. He and his "supervisor" searched and searched then came up with a marijuana seed that he said he found on the floorboard that both of them had been "searching" for about 10 minutes. After he handcuffed me for a freaking seed, they continue searching the car, taking turns on each side of the car for another 10 minutes. Then the "supervisor" magically comes up with a joint that he claims he found on the same floorboard he founf the seed on. REALLY?!?! The same place as the seed and he managed to overlook an entire joint?!?!?! PAALLLEEEAAAASSSEEE.
2 years later, the case gets dismissed and the last I heard, the cop got fired for lying on his police report for my case.
I have also been a first hand witness to other police, people I used to call friends, behave in similar fashion.
Quit trying to take up for these slime balls, Cleatas. Good cops are good cops, they arent who we are talking about here. Good cops stick to procedure and rein themselves in when needed. Pigs do what they want and abuse their power.
When police tell me I have to protect myself against the big bad wolf, some of those wolves are cops.
this is why its better to cooperate
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 10:31 PM
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This idea that all police are good cops and you dont have to worry about them is TOATL BS!!!
Ive been told straight up by a pig (a corrupt police officer) that he had "No probable cause" but was going to search my car anyway even though I refused. He and his "supervisor" searched and searched then came up with a marijuana seed that he said he found on the floorboard that both of them had been "searching" for about 10 minutes. After he handcuffed me for a freaking seed, they continue searching the car, taking turns on each side of the car for another 10 minutes. Then the "supervisor" magically comes up with a joint that he claims he found on the same floorboard he founf the seed on. REALLY?!?! The same place as the seed and he managed to overlook an entire joint?!?!?! PAALLLEEEAAAASSSEEE.
2 years later, the case gets dismissed and the last I heard, the cop got fired for lying on his police report for my case.
I have also been a first hand witness to other police, people I used to call friends, behave in similar fashion.
Quit trying to take up for these slime balls, Cleatas. Good cops are good cops, they arent who we are talking about here. Good cops stick to procedure and rein themselves in when needed. Pigs do what they want and abuse their power.
When police tell me I have to protect myself against the big bad wolf, some of those wolves are cops.
Thank you.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 10:32 PM
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This idea that all police are good cops and you dont have to worry about them is TOATL BS!!!
Ive been told straight up by a pig (a corrupt police officer) that he had "No probable cause" but was going to search my car anyway even though I refused. He and his "supervisor" searched and searched then came up with a marijuana seed that he said he found on the floorboard that both of them had been "searching" for about 10 minutes. After he handcuffed me for a freaking seed, they continue searching the car, taking turns on each side of the car for another 10 minutes. Then the "supervisor" magically comes up with a joint that he claims he found on the same floorboard he founf the seed on. REALLY?!?! The same place as the seed and he managed to overlook an entire joint?!?!?! PAALLLEEEAAAASSSEEE.
2 years later, the case gets dismissed and the last I heard, the cop got fired for lying on his police report for my case.
I have also been a first hand witness to other police, people I used to call friends, behave in similar fashion.
Quit trying to take up for these slime balls, Cleatas. Good cops are good cops, they arent who we are talking about here. Good cops stick to procedure and rein themselves in when needed. Pigs do what they want and abuse their power.
When police tell me I have to protect myself against the big bad wolf, some of those wolves are cops.
this is why its better to cooperate
Go ahead and give up your rights. I believe my rights are worth fighting for, even if that means going to court. I can see where you stand.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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hey , that BS attitude gonna get you in bad situation someday
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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hey , that BS attitude gonna get you in bad situation someday
LMAO, I have been hearing that my whole life. Didn't mean any disrespect, but it does look like you are willing to give up your rights for a little less illegal harassment
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 10:51 PM
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my point is you pi$$ off the wrong a-hole cop and he plants a bag of dope on you in some Mayberry town and you are screwed, all that macho $hit will only help their case
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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on a side note if Im cooperative and that happened to me they would have a whole nuther case pending
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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04/22/09 10:54 PM
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...this is why its better to cooperate
Cooperate with criminals?!?!?!?! You must be one of the corrupt cops or a spineless jellyfish. You go right ahead and give up the rights our veterans fought and died for. You really should respect what others have done for you more than just rolling over and behaving like some oppressed sheep. The more people blindly "cooperate" the more over the line these pigs will step until they are waltzing in your front door and inspecting your own home..."just because they want to."
I will retain and fight for rights and freedoms because they are the most precious thing we have as American citizens.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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my point is you pi$$ off the wrong a-hole cop and he plants a bag of dope on you in some Mayberry town and you are screwed, all that macho $hit will only help their case
No macho crap, just don't want my rights violated. They had better hope my camera doesn't catch them. For them to plant something in my car, they would have to illegally enter it. I like to exit my car and lock the doors during a stop. If I am ordered back in the car I do as told, but when I exit it again I lock it again.
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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thats a good idea and I am not a cop of anykind and I can assure you I am not spineless (in fact I would consider a comment like that an invitation)
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Re: Handgun in Louisiana
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thats a good idea and I am not a cop of anykind and I can assure you I am not spineless
Both of those are good to hear. lol Now, how do we get you to stand up for yours and our rights?
See, I knew what was coming down the pipe for me when this cop started pulling his crap. I also knew that if I went along with his antics, it would only be reinforecement to him and any other new officers on the force that disregarding peoples rights was ok and he could do with me as he pleased without repercussion. Yes I sacrificed 2 years of BS for my beliefs, but the guy got his in the end. I won. And so did every other citizen. I feel obligated to ask you to do the same.
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