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Re: Hecs camo suit
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#6888192
09/15/17 01:55 PM
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Dave Davidson
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Just thinking. The only ones who say it works are the ones that have tried it. BTW, I made a couple of calls to guys that have used it. Since I evidently have more $ than brains, I'm gonna buy one just to try it out.
Do I really need one? Probably not but I also don't need the safe full of guns that I rarely shoot, way too much reloading gear and too many tackle boxes and rods/reels.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: horn section]
#6888209
09/15/17 02:09 PM
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Dave Davidson
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Done; maybe blew $179.99 but that's not really all that unusual. I'll give my experience during bow season.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: horn section]
#6888274
09/15/17 03:00 PM
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Pitchfork Predator
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I'll stay tuned for your feedback Dave.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
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#6888482
09/15/17 05:42 PM
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passthru
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I know of a guy that swears by it. I wouldn't pay that for it though.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: horn section]
#6888678
09/15/17 09:50 PM
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Dave Davidson
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Bow season starts soon. I'll try it then.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
#6888770
09/15/17 11:59 PM
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TEXASLEFTY
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I'll stay tuned for your feedback Dave. Me too.
Never been to a camping world. I prefer Dick's to be honest.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: waderaider1]
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09/16/17 09:50 PM
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Double Naught Spy
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So not only is the HECS suit disguising waderaider1, but it has disguised the crossbow and arrows such that the buck is now blind and deaf to them. I don't recall any sort of projected coverage promoted by the HECS suit people, yet that is what you are claiming as a benefit to it.
If somebody could demonstrate for me that land mammals, such as deer, sense and utilize bioelectric field information as is implied for predator avoidance, I would be much more impressed. Strangely, there is no documentation of deer being or other terrestrial land mammals being able to do this.
Fish do use electromagnetic signals to sense the bioelectric discharges of other animals. In fact, most or all species of fish have a well studied systems in their body dedicated to this very thing called the lateral line system and in sharks, they also have the Ampullae of Lorenzini on their heads for this purpose. Some species of fish also have receptors in their gills. Electroreception of the bioelectric signals in mammals is known only in the platypus and one or two species of dolphin. You must be a Democrat if that is what you comprehended from that. Reading things that are not there. What I said is all they did was glance in my direction to the noise. They did not see or sense me.The op asked for an honest opinion from someone who has and uses that's what I did. If you haven't you do not have a first hand opinion. You do have an opinion regardless of how baseless it is the the actual use of he's. So you are reduced to ad hominem attack to represent your position? Excellent logic. There is no evidence to support that deer have the ability to sense bioelectric fields from other animals. There is no evidence that deer use bioelectroreception or bioelectromagnetoreception to avoid predators of any sort. It really is that simple. The case from HECS that since some animals can orient themselves with the magnetic field of the earth and hence can sense the bioelectric fields of other animals is spurious at best.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
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#6889756
09/17/17 02:25 PM
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Smokey Bear
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Bigfoot must wear HECS
Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
#6889875
09/17/17 04:52 PM
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Nogalus Prairie
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So not only is the HECS suit disguising waderaider1, but it has disguised the crossbow and arrows such that the buck is now blind and deaf to them. I don't recall any sort of projected coverage promoted by the HECS suit people, yet that is what you are claiming as a benefit to it.
If somebody could demonstrate for me that land mammals, such as deer, sense and utilize bioelectric field information as is implied for predator avoidance, I would be much more impressed. Strangely, there is no documentation of deer being or other terrestrial land mammals being able to do this.
Fish do use electromagnetic signals to sense the bioelectric discharges of other animals. In fact, most or all species of fish have a well studied systems in their body dedicated to this very thing called the lateral line system and in sharks, they also have the Ampullae of Lorenzini on their heads for this purpose. Some species of fish also have receptors in their gills. Electroreception of the bioelectric signals in mammals is known only in the platypus and one or two species of dolphin. You must be a Democrat if that is what you comprehended from that. Reading things that are not there. What I said is all they did was glance in my direction to the noise. They did not see or sense me.The op asked for an honest opinion from someone who has and uses that's what I did. If you haven't you do not have a first hand opinion. You do have an opinion regardless of how baseless it is the the actual use of he's. So you are reduced to ad hominem attack to represent your position? Excellent logic. There is no evidence to support that deer have the ability to sense bioelectric fields from other animals. There is no evidence that deer use bioelectroreception or bioelectromagnetoreception to avoid predators of any sort. It really is that simple. The case from HECS that since some animals can orient themselves with the magnetic field of the earth and hence can sense the bioelectric fields of other animals is spurious at best. Ad hominem is all some have.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: horn section]
#6890912
09/18/17 04:20 PM
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Sneaky
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What if it does work? Let's use that, Ozonics, and Scent Lok, and we won't even have to hunt anymore.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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09/18/17 06:57 PM
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Pitchfork Predator
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So not only is the HECS suit disguising waderaider1, but it has disguised the crossbow and arrows such that the buck is now blind and deaf to them. I don't recall any sort of projected coverage promoted by the HECS suit people, yet that is what you are claiming as a benefit to it.
If somebody could demonstrate for me that land mammals, such as deer, sense and utilize bioelectric field information as is implied for predator avoidance, I would be much more impressed. Strangely, there is no documentation of deer being or other terrestrial land mammals being able to do this.
Fish do use electromagnetic signals to sense the bioelectric discharges of other animals. In fact, most or all species of fish have a well studied systems in their body dedicated to this very thing called the lateral line system and in sharks, they also have the Ampullae of Lorenzini on their heads for this purpose. Some species of fish also have receptors in their gills. Electroreception of the bioelectric signals in mammals is known only in the platypus and one or two species of dolphin. You must be a Democrat if that is what you comprehended from that. Reading things that are not there. What I said is all they did was glance in my direction to the noise. They did not see or sense me.The op asked for an honest opinion from someone who has and uses that's what I did. If you haven't you do not have a first hand opinion. You do have an opinion regardless of how baseless it is the the actual use of he's. So you are reduced to ad hominem attack to represent your position? Excellent logic. There is no evidence to support that deer have the ability to sense bioelectric fields from other animals. There is no evidence that deer use bioelectroreception or bioelectromagnetoreception to avoid predators of any sort. It really is that simple. The case from HECS that since some animals can orient themselves with the magnetic field of the earth and hence can sense the bioelectric fields of other animals is spurious at best. Ad hominem is all some have. This op asked for people who have used the HECS to post their experience with it. The OP stated he was skeptical and wanted to hear from people who have used it. Yet you two, along with others seem to feel the need to raise an awareness of being skeptical about this product. Then you insult or belittle the posters that posted about their experience with the HECS. And your surprised when their reply gets personal? .......or maybe your not surprised and this is the reply you were hoping/trolling for?
Last edited by Pitchfork Predator; 09/18/17 07:44 PM.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: horn section]
#6891409
09/18/17 11:43 PM
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Dave Davidson
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It came in today. Read the documentation and found: "Used in conjunction with good camo and scent control, and assuming you keep noise and movement minimal, HECS can make a significant difference to your hunting success by allowing you to get closer to game." Well, all that makes sense. Thinking about it, I have no idea whether my electrical signal has ever spooked anything. But, I'll give it a fair test and see what I think.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Hecs camo suit
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#6891502
09/19/17 01:05 AM
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Nogalus Prairie
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There is a cheaper alternative. Sunglasses optional. (Lighten up boys, just making a funny. )
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
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#6891819
09/19/17 11:34 AM
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waderaider1
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Nogalus. With 22,000 + posts I must ask have you used all of them to show just how special you are?
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: waderaider1]
#6891938
09/19/17 01:41 PM
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Nogalus. With 22,000 + posts I must ask have you used all of them to show just how special you are? LMAO!!!!
Never been to a camping world. I prefer Dick's to be honest.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: waderaider1]
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09/19/17 11:47 PM
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Nogalus Prairie
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Nogalus. With 22,000 + posts I must ask have you used all of them to show just how special you are? Delete: maybe my joke I had here is not politically correct. Even though it was on me.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
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#6895486
09/22/17 04:27 PM
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Smokey Bear
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There is a cheaper alternative. Sunglasses optional. (Lighten up boys, just making a funny. ) Now that's funny!
Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
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#6895644
09/22/17 07:07 PM
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ilik2hunt
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If it works like they say why don't they make pop up blinds with this material?
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#6896300
09/23/17 02:14 PM
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Double Naught Spy
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It came in today. Read the documentation and found: "Used in conjunction with good camo and scent control, and assuming you keep noise and movement minimal, HECS can make a significant difference to your hunting success by allowing you to get closer to game." Well, all that makes sense. Thinking about it, I have no idea whether my electrical signal has ever spooked anything. But, I'll give it a fair test and see what I think. LOL, so if you do the stuff that a really good hunter does, the suit will work? This begs the question as to how really good hunters manage to do what they do without one of these suits.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: Dave Davidson]
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09/24/17 12:06 AM
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It came in today. Read the documentation and found: "Used in conjunction with good camo and scent control, and assuming you keep noise and movement minimal, HECS can make a significant difference to your hunting success by allowing you to get closer to game." Well, all that makes sense. Thinking about it, I have no idea whether my electrical signal has ever spooked anything. But, I'll give it a fair test and see what I think. You realize that says less than nothing, right? It actually comes closer to saying it doesn't work than it does by pointing out you have to do all the other stuff, and then it CAN (not WILL) make a difference. Maybe. Which also means it also can NOT make a difference. That is all straight up flim-flam con language.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
[Re: Dave Davidson]
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09/25/17 04:12 PM
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waderaider1
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It came in today. Read the documentation and found: "Used in conjunction with good camo and scent control, and assuming you keep noise and movement minimal, HECS can make a significant difference to your hunting success by allowing you to get closer to game." Well, all that makes sense. Thinking about it, I have no idea whether my electrical signal has ever spooked anything. But, I'll give it a fair test and see what I think. I hope you enjoy how the animals act different while wearing this suit. only those that have tried and used the product can only truthfully critique the product. do not listen to the so called know it all's. The best of luck to you. I don't think you will regret it.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
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#6914091
10/09/17 04:35 PM
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Dave Davidson
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OK; tried it this weekend. Sat about 25 yards from a feeder. I was behind a fork in a couple of trees. 3 young, a couple of 2 year olds and a baby, bucks came in and ate. At first they were nervous because, I assume, it was about 150 yds from the house and 2 pickups were there. I had the wind in my favor. They settled down and started eating; obviously not knowing I was there. I shot a spike with the XBOW.
Did the HECS work? Would the situation be the same if I wasn't wearing it? I don't know. I'll have to try some more to get some more experiences. Had they left, I would have said that it didn't work. I'll try some more and report back. So far, I know that one instance doesn't mean a whole lot but I am kinda encouraged.
Last edited by Dave Davidson; 10/09/17 04:37 PM.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Hecs camo suit
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11/01/17 02:28 AM
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I know of a guy that swears by it also, I don't know. I do use scent lok, but I buy it when it's on sale or discounted. I mean I have to wear camo so why not scent lok? I'm a big believer in playing the wind and always hunt with the wind in my favor.
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Re: Hecs camo suit
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#6961751
11/15/17 09:54 PM
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Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy wear Hecs!
Last edited by DH3; 11/15/17 09:55 PM.
Old age and treachery beats youth and stupid every time!
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