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WHAT IF.....
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09/14/17 10:31 PM
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Few weeks ago I was at my lease filling feeders and on the way home I saw something I thought I would never see in my life. There is a high fence place not far from us that I always look at when I drive by trying to see what they have but usually all I see are some exotics and an occasional 120" or less buck. This time I was doing about 70mph and saw a buck that just blew my mind so I turned around. My Dad was with me and asked what I was doing and I told him I just saw a 300"+ non typical with points going everywere! We turned around and thankfully the buck was still there so he could see I wasn't losing my mind and I was able to video it with my phone before he got uncomfortable and started to head back into the brush. Anyway I have watched the footage over and over again and best I can tell the deer has 42 points, 4 drop tines (one of which is 10"-12"), probably 24"+ inside spread, and best I can tell he will score 325"-350"NT. Now for the "what if" part. With all these giant bucks being grown on deer farms now and being turned loose on high fence places for breeding, hunting, or whatever else they do with them at some point one of these giants is going to get loose and get shot on a neighboring low fence property. Does that buck become the next state or possibly even a world record?
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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#6887640
09/14/17 10:36 PM
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Doubtful if it has an ear tag with its name on it
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 12:46 AM
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Doubt it even if the tag is gone and there is a hole in the ear for that tag. Justin you know
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 01:45 AM
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Justin you know LOL I actually don't have any pics, just video. I have sent the video to a few people and some say they cant see it well enough to even tell its a deer and others say they can see it just fine. I may see if I can take some screen shots of the video tomorrow. If that works out I will post some then.
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 02:32 AM
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I've seen the video and it's a beast!!!!
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 02:39 AM
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I could see argument both ways!
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 03:12 AM
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A good taxidermist can fix that hole in the ear, like it was never there.
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 03:55 AM
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If I remember correctly you are in Coke county, is this place on highway 277?
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 10:14 AM
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 10:57 AM
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If I remember correctly you are in Coke county, is this place on highway 277? I do hunt Coke county. I would rather not give any specifics though on the deers location. Crazy people do crazy things for deer a whole lot smaller than the one I saw.
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09/15/17 11:27 AM
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I Feed Indian Corn. The deer love it and all the colors make them stay at the feeder longer.
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 12:13 PM
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Those type deer are pretty common in the pens these days.
I'm sure some "escapees" are in the books already, but any potential state or world record would be investigated, vetted, and scrutinized to the max - by both the media and B&C. The deer killed would be a known deer if it was an "escapee" and would not be allowed as a record per B&C requirements.
Many thought the giant Missouri nontypical that currently holds the first nontypical spot was an "escapee". Some still do. It was a "pick up" not taken by a hunter. B&C did a big investigation and could find no evidence of that.
A more thorny potential issue is the taking of a big animal that is an "escapee" from years back that was young and then grew to record size.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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09/15/17 01:02 PM
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Justin you know LOL I actually don't have any pics, just video. I have sent the video to a few people and some say they cant see it well enough to even tell its a deer and others say they can see it just fine. I may see if I can take some screen shots of the video tomorrow. If that works out I will post some then. If you have an iphone and text it to an android phone , the quality goes out the window. try emailing to save the quality
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 01:07 PM
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A good taxidermist can fix that hole in the ear, like it was never there. That's what I was thinking.
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 01:41 PM
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The man that shot such a deer would have to be considered the greatest of all hunters, I'd think.
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 02:05 PM
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I find myself doing the same thing...I can barely stay on the road for looking for big bucks on those ranches...all I've ever seen are exotics. I saw an absolute giant bull elk a few years ago just standing by the fence along the highway and the thought of that thing escaping has been my recurring dream....or nightmare.... I don't know much, but I can state this with confidence....let that thing escape and walk within 300yds of me and it'll be the quickest decision I've ever made.... Don't know where in Coke county you are, but we've certainly got a lot of those ranches around us too....
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 02:32 PM
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I hunt Coke county and there are quite a few HF ranches there. I saw three different properties just last year that put up HF. I too keep an eye out when driving by them and I have seen a number of exotics over the years but like you I rarely see WTs and when I do they have never been much to speak of much less turning around to take another look but if I saw one like you described I too would have gone back to make sure I wasn't hallucinating.
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 02:59 PM
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One of my leases is about a mile from a really good HF place. Several deer taken off of that place have been posted on here. Anyway, about 3 years ago we started seeing all kinds of strange bucks. We had a couple of 1.5 year old 6 points that had drop tines, 2.5 year olds with all kinds of kickers and odd points. Last year my buddy got a HUGE 8 point with his bow. I haven't seen the escapee(s) that started all of this, but I'm definitely seeing the benefits. I think in the next couple of years, there will be a massive "free range" buck taken in the area.
Silver spurs and gold tequila keep me hanging on. Pretty girls and old cantinas give me shelter from the storm.
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 03:56 PM
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I got a buddy in Erath county and he has a large HF operation that butts up to his LF place. During the rut you can rattle close to the fence and have multiple 200+ inch deer come up to the fence line. Genetic monsters but still cool to see
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 08:09 PM
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Well trying to get some freeze frame shots from computer to phone didn't go so well. Here is some really poor quality proof though. I almost feel like those guys getting the blurry Big Foot pics. The footage on my computer is actually pretty decent though.
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/15/17 09:25 PM
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/16/17 05:57 AM
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/16/17 01:17 PM
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It makes you wonder how those guys get through the brush. That is an absolute te monster. I'd be shaking from buck fever so bad that I'd probably miss, then no one would believe the story.
Last edited by HS2; 09/16/17 01:18 PM.
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/16/17 01:47 PM
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That is a BIG ONE, Amazing how they can grow so much bone in a few months
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: WHAT IF.....
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09/16/17 03:10 PM
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Deer are getting bigger on LFs all of the time. With ranches HFed on three sides, high protein food plots, crops and protein feeders, it is just a matter of time before the next record deer is killed. Good genetics are on LFs too, some seem to think that the HFers stole them all.
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