Not a cape buffalo, but I will tell another story about how a pissed off water buffalo takes .223 rounds. You will want a full magazine and fast feet if you try to stop him with an M16. You might claim shot placement is everything, but when you are butt deep in a rice paddy and the buffalo is coming at you, you spray and pray. There was only 6 in that patrol, but the story as I remember it they all emptied their magazines before the buffalo fell.

Are you intentionally trolling? Looks like he is a sniper using something very similar to your deer hunting rifle in case the point is lost.

Should you be allowed to own a military sniper rifle, one far more powerful than the piss ant 5.56 issued to all regular soldiers?

Query, what round are the AR 10, M110, M60, SR 25, SCAR 17, M40, M40A1, and M40A5?

Is a SCAR 17 ok to use for deer hunting? It has "AR" in the name.

As it only has a 16" barrel, it does not make as much velocity as the R700 with a 24" barrel in the photo, and thus is even less powerful than that bolt action Remington 700.

Chris Kyle wasn't a single gun sniper. He chose the weapon for the job, for which many he used the MK-12 in 5.56. https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2012/6/18/americas-deadliest-sniper/

doveshooter,

what are the specifics on your Mauser? That one is especially nice looking.


DNS,

Very interesting article, thank you for sharing.

Cool article. Here is one quote from it though. "Several times he shot insurgents at close range with 5.56 mm rounds and they did not halt, causing him to question the cartridge’s effectiveness.That ineffectiveness may have been caused by drugs."

As pappy once said: in the hands of a properly trained user, a weapon of mass- distruction ...

And yet he somehow came out on top of each of those encounters.

Jeffbird, I believe that is a "Mosin Nugant" Russian rifle 7.62x54R. They kick like a mule, especially with steel butt plate.

Whatever Walmart had in stock just before the hunt.

Concur, it looks like a Mosin Nagant to me as well, but he said it is a Mauser in his post, which is why I asked.

The top of the stock appears to rise into a hump like a Mauser.

There are a huge number of variations of Mausers, so definitely not ruling it out, and why I asked. Now that I look at his photo again, it does not have the bottom metal in front of the trigger guard like a Mosin, but the bolt handle looks like one. Definitely interested in learning. Mausers are really interesting and were a big step forward in safety design.

Of course, they are a military rifle and need to be banned. No one should be able to own a Mauser anything. Germans wiped out the free world with Mausers.


Good thing we had the 30-06 then or we would be going metric with Mil scopes and driving German and Japanese cars. Oh wait........

It's definitely a Mauser. The rifle pictured doesn't have the hideous Mosin safety.

Yes, very similar to a deer rifle but with a much heavier barrel for increased accuracy. And clearly, not a .223 caliber barrel.

I seem to remember that at least one of the favored sniper guns was based on the Remington Model 700 design.

wow this is still going..........

The season opener is still months away.

Back when I was in high school, way before the sunset date on the Assault Weapons ban, a buddy of mine's Dad had a original AR-15 colt, a M4 fully auto and a fully auto Mini-14.


My buddy loved to hunt with the AR-15. it was the old school, viet nam style with the peep sight. He killed a few deer with it too.





























































and I want to let everyone know that we made fun of him way back then for doing it......so its not a new trend.



Carry on

Exactly. We have plenty of time. No need to cut things short.

You couldn't kill it with a flame thrower....

Or a scary black rifle in 223/556, that's what they say.

Fixed it.

Sure seems like the people who use the term "trolling" are really just people that can't handle differences of opinion. Quit getting so butt-hurt. It's ok to disagree with someone!


I think the deal is, it's perfectly fine to hunt with a semi-auto in an appropriate cartridge. However, most will agree a bolt-action just makes more sense and is more accurate hands down.

The problem is, a good majority of the people who use semi-auto's are idiots and give the legit hunters a bad rep.

Naw, I don't even own a 223/5.56 AR and not going to.

What I do care a whole lot about is those who are ok giving away someone else's rights by condemning them without even recognizing they are undermining many more including themselves.

If the young guys want to use an AR, again available in many rounds more powerful than 223, I am just glad they are interested in shooting and hunting and welcome them. If they would benefit from better skills and safety, then help them, but be glad they are on our side.

I don't think the majority of guys who use semi autos are idiots, I think the videos of people doing idiotic things with semi autos just stick out better in people memory. I've hunted with multiple people using semi autos and never once seen an issue. The truth is all guns are tools and some people are better with those tools then others. My most kills from a sounder of hogs is 4 and that was with a bolt action but I've killed more hogs with my ARs overall using both 223 and 6.8. I've also shot my 6.8 AR out to 600 yds consistently. I trust it's accuracy as much as any bolt action I've shot. Some people are old school and stuck to their ways and that's fine nothing wrong with using what has always works for you but there are other tools that can do the job and do the job well.