Good thing it's up to the landowner to dictate who, what, where, etc.

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I'd rather have a competent hunting partner using a .223, than most that show up with the 300+P++P Rigby AI Express Superduper Magnum. [/quote]

I'd have to agree with this as well. We had a guy show up once on a mule deer hunt with his new 30-378 Wby, and the minute we picked him up he started talking about his new rig and what wonderful shot he was. He proceeded to miss 26 times over a 5 day period because he was scared to death of his rifle.

if you had 108 sections I bet you would see some mule deer

Oh fellas, can't y'all go back to running thru the countryside wearing nothing but a loin cloth, and a spear in your hand? Us girls would appreciate it, and probably pay cash money to watch.


Carry on gent's.

Have you actually met some of these people, Janie? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

After guiding for a number of years, and running tracking dogs for a few years less, I can say without hesitation that "bozos" aren't confined to using AR's. They also use bolt guns, often very large ones. Instead of subscribing to the "spray and pray" theory that many here feel an AR user is likely to have, they believe that the sheer power of a magnum round will overcome their lack of proficiency and marksmanship.

People should be careful buying into stereotypes, you might be in one yourself and not even know it.

so true

Yup.

Stereotyping gets a bad rap.

Sometimes that's all you've got to go on. So if it fits, it's better than making an assumption that runs contrary to one's real world experiences.

Kinda like assuming a guy approaching you wearing a hoody late at night in a dark parking garage is there to sell you Girl Scout cookies.

I see the same people who rail against stereotyping on AR shooters, LR shooters, HF hunting, etc. engaging in all manner of stereotyping when it comes to other things they want to stereotype.

AR platform rifles would be more accepted in the hunting community if people were more educated.

Jtprocaddie has a great training and instructional vid on hunting with AR platform rifles

Yeah, and you're as guilty of it as anybody.

One type rifle that I have rarely seen in the hands of a good hunter is an AR. I have seen several new hunters buy AR type rifles first, not understanding the limitations of the 223 round. As for an AR in 308 or any of the other good hunting rounds, those are most likely going to be bought and used by competent hunters, not the newbies.

I guess I should get an AR.
Nah I like my 7mm-08 bolt action.

I committed a serious hunting faux pas when I took an HK-91 assault rifle on a deer hunt at my old mans corp deer lease/beer joint/party-till-you-pass-out camp in Palo Pinto co. back in the mid '70's. My dad is old school when it comes to hunting & fishing as are his friends, some of whom were WWII and Korean War vets including one fella that was a mentor of mine and an exceptional man that I respected greatly. He jumped out of a burning C-47 into Normandy on D-Day and fought all the way to Berlin. Needless to say, he knew a thing or two about firearms.

When he saw that rifle, (You're hunting with a......a what? An assault rifle? A GERMAN assault rifle? OMFG, have you lost your mind??!!). The look on that mans face went from 0 to 60 in an instant, followed by loud profanity and a spit laced tirade on the need to hunt deer with the proper hunting rifle, a rifle properly suited for the rigors of a " sporting gentleman". In his opinion, the only firearm suitable for hunting deer or other large game is a bolt action rifle .

I had some nice wood stocked bolt action rifles and a Thompson Contendor as well but they looked so darn pretty that when I'd go hunting, I was worried I'd scratch the wood or mess up the finish. I'd gotten them as gifts and they still looked new, and I wanted them to stay that way. The problem when you get a nice shiny new toy is the knowledge that it's gonna get scratched eventually. Unless you put it up and get another toy you can't mess up as easily. And that H&K-91 was the perfect hunting rifle. It was built like a tank, accurate, reliable, didn't care if it was wet or muddy, and cheap. I paid less than $600 when I bought it new.

my issue with them is the cartridges they are chambered for. a .223 or a 6.8 spc is not a good deer round. in a .308 yes they are fine, but I don't see the point in using one. Yes, they are accurate, but so is my bolt gun. I can shoot, rack the bolt and be back on target about as fast as a guy shooting a AR-10 can. AR's in my experience of using and owning them, they are not that handy to carry. I think they are neat to shoot and cool to own, but as far as being hunting rifles, there are much better options out there both in terms of rifles and the rounds they are chambered for.

I will also say this, after guiding hunters for many years....You show up with an AR to hunt with, at most ranches, they are not going to take you seriously. you show up to hunt with an SKS or a Mini-14 they are going to think the same thing....don't know why its any different with an AR

It's hunters like him that fit very well into the spray and pray category. I was thinking of him this morning when I started reading this thread. Someone should post that video of him emptying his mag on that sounder of hogs and not hitting one of them.

I don't know how in the world these stereotypes perpetuate!

Those are some sick shades dawg

Yep. I just said stereotypes are not always inaccurate. People just don't like it when the shoe fits them.

Sometimes they are. But 53 years of living has given me the tools to separate the BS ones from the useful ones most of the time.

The AR one for deer hunting is a pretty useful one. A reading of this thread and the experiences on here shows why.

Everyone gets stereotyped. Being an old white redneckish type person, Lord knows I do. I just choose to not get all butthurt about it. I just laugh and go on with my life.

The polar opposite of the Rifle Snob ( the guy who won't touch a gun unless it wears Grade V Turkish walnut, High gloss Bluing, custom inlays and engraving, with a fine German Optic on top ) is the Call of Duty hunter.

The Call of Duty hunter is a person who didn't grow up hunting, but he wants to prove himself a man so he takes the gun he is most familiar with (AR platform rifles from, Duh, Playing Call of Duty) afield and attempts to mow down animals as if they were the viet cong. Hunting for this guy is all about Image & Machismo and very little about the thrill of the hunt, pursuit of the quarry or the sheer adrenaline rush of the kill....its all about doing it to say he did.


I've hunted with both types, and although the aforementioned hunter can be annoying, I far prefer him to the latter

Reminds me of Animal House. "A wimp and a blimp."

Do it like NP does it or you are wrong.

Just be thankful you're not a lawyer.