Let youths shoot any size buck in an AR county.

NMFS has really screwed the pooch on this issue.

Speaking of nuisance wildlife, last summer I had a ton of hummingbirds that kept attacking the flowers in our garden. TPWD should add them to list of migratory birds that can be hunted.

A strap of mounted hummingbirds would look good on the wall in my trophy room.

Same way at our place. Way too many bucks and not enough does. We made a decision not to shoot any does this year. We even let our kids take some spikes this year to try and thin the herd.

I think hunters do a pretty good job of policing aka shooting what they think they should in relation to does to bucks. We took no does this year and no one mentioned a word about it. Some years we take 1 and some 9. We hardly saw any this year so none were taken.

One rule I would like changed would be when you tag your game. Wait until you are gutting or taking to processor. No one ever gets nailed for it, but law is as soon as you shoot it. Not many of us have pens on our body before we move the animal. MLD gets to wait until their final destination which is the barn. Why not regular folks? I know a 100 scenarios can arise but 99.99% of the time there would be no issue. How many times are guys in trouble for this but never actually commited a real game violation?? Poachers are poachers and get busted. A tag has hardly even come into play.

I don't think it's about whether or not he understands it....he simply doesn't care what your defense is...because as he stated once you fence them thy are no longer the States deer because they no longer have free range....they become yours and you should pay for them if you high fence. I kind of like the idea...the money could go to improving the hunting in the state.

The whole concept of wild game "ownership" is one of the reasons we fought a revolution to break away from the King of England. Sad to see it worming its way back into the minds of American hunters.

Lol...the closest we've come to having a king just left office...the "ownership" is by the "people" for the people. Wild game has not been...until lately, last 40 yrs or so, viewed the same as cattle.

I bet those sell like hot cakes in bookstores at law schools.

40 years ago most farmers where smoking everyone they saw..... via a 22/223 out the window of a truck,

Values change and so do management principles

I worked with a guy back in 1987 told me that's what they did on their family farm outside of San Antonio, they were nuisance that ate their crops.

I would reduce the 13" AR rule to 12". I have always believed they went an inch too far. A 12" AR would protect the younger bucks the way it was meant to and yet allow the harvest of bucks that will never make 13". If you don't believe there are bucks that are mature and between 12 and 13" wide then you haven't looked at the antler mounts and deer heads on walls all over Texas.

I'm certain the price would double if they were autographed

what is a yoot?

It is always interesting to see how long it takes for threads to take a turn for the south from the original post. Oh, and by the way, I am certainly guilty at times!

Well, I have read every response on this sideways thread, and unless I missed it, I've not seen my one gripe discussed. I would like to see all the spike bucks protected unless they can be proven to be 2.5 or older. Anybody should be able to tell a yearling spike, and if they can't, they need to hang it up !

Lmao

I don't understand the "let youths shoot a non-AR deer in AR counties"?


One, that teaches them that rules don't apply to th.

Secondly, it's not good management practice

Excellent points TT85.

No different than youth season where they get to use guns the last weekend of bow season and all of muzzleloader. Then if that's the case it would be ok if they get to shoot a deer under 13 during the yourh season.

Its a lot different. They are letting them use modern weapons not changing what animal is legal.

If a deer is shot with a gun or bow or muzzleloader it's still a dead deer. It's not gonna affect the herd if a different weapon is used.

A bunch of under 17 year olds who start shooting yearlings and two year olds will

Ok then have an age limit on it. Say if you are 10 or under you can shoot 1 deer under 13. Not 1 per year but one period

And how would they enforce that?

Special lifetime tag?