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300 blackout yay or nay? #6656531 02/01/17 02:12 AM
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I bought a 300 blackout today for home defense and as a "side arm" when piercing oinkers with my 308. What do you guys think about the round itself. I will not be suppressing it

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I have a SBR in 300 BLK. I think its useful as long as you keep in mind its limitations. I would say its a light 30-30 and keep that in mind in regard to range and abilities. Choose the duty for the rifle and use the appropriate ammo for the occasion and know your distances and I think you will be fine. As far as a home defense rifle, Im sure it will be fine, but could have over penetration. I would use a tipped round that would expand rapidly on target if it was my bedside rifle. As far as a back up to hogs, I would probably use a Barnes TSX round or something that would penetrate deeply enough in such a tough animal. Thats just my thoughts with my limited use thus far. I know that alot of guys have used them for deer and hogs.

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Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6656591 02/01/17 02:38 AM
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It's a wimpy 30-30.


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Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6656616 02/01/17 02:55 AM
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I dont see its appeal at all.


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Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6656632 02/01/17 03:04 AM
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I could see it being useful for home defense but other than that I dont have much use for it. Any distance past 50yds and Id rather just run a 308.

Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6656694 02/01/17 03:41 AM
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I spent a lot of time and money trying to get the 300BLK to be something it just couldn't be. For a period of about a year, I spent more time working loads and trying different bullets than all my other calibers combined. I finally sold my upper, brass, bullets, dies, and reloading data and have never looked back.

The only load I ever really liked was Barnes 110gr Tac-TX over 19.2gr H110. That load was very accurate out of my particular upper (AAC 16" 1:7).

I wish I would have spent that time and money getting into 6.5 Grendel.

Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6656846 02/01/17 12:38 PM
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Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6656847 02/01/17 12:39 PM
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Good, bad, or indifferent ...... Ours shoots under MOA with my handloads. And I don't want to get shot with it at 100 yards. I highly doubt that a pig or deer would, either.


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Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6656877 02/01/17 01:03 PM
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With rounds like the Grendel and SPC, I don't understand the popularity of that round.

Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6656903 02/01/17 01:24 PM
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I only see the appeal if you want to suppress it. And that's just because subsonic rounds seem easier to come by for the 300 than other calibers.


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To me, it was one of the two best options to set my 7 yo up on to hunt. Ar platform allows us to adjust the stock, low recoil, and throw a big chunck of lead to knock a big hole in an animal. I'd prefer this over a youth model rifle that I won't need in a few years.

Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6656937 02/01/17 01:44 PM
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If your going to suppress it then yes, otherwise 6.5 grendel would be my choice.

What length barrel does it have?

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Used for what it was designed for (subs, short barrel and suppressed) it's a rockstar. With standard velocity ammo it's a decent deer and hog round with limitations. Also a great hunting round out of a contender pistol.
I have 3, an sbr AR15, a 16" bolt gun and a 16" custom made contender G2.


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Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6657008 02/01/17 02:32 PM
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Home defense and sidearm - guess you have an AR pistol? For short-intermediate range it is a good round. Don't know why anybody would think you need a 6.5 round for that.

I've killed more than a few pigs and a couple deer with it, def not something I'd want to get shot with either.


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Originally Posted By: chalet
Home defense and sidearm - guess you have an AR pistol?


Or a contender. wink


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Home defense and sidearm - guess you have an AR pistol?


Or a contender. wink


Single shot home defense gun? Guess he'd be a straight up muy bad hombre then.


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Re: 300 blackout yay or nay? [Re: BuckshotBuddy] #6657130 02/01/17 03:39 PM
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I love my 300 blk out's (plural). I hunt with a bolt gun and night hunt with my AR with a thermal scope for pigs. For a 30 caliber round in a 223 sized case, it's freakin' awesome. A 110 grain V-max in the blk out makes a great self defense round. It would be very nasty.

If you need good ammo, here is my link to good blk out ammo:

http://dallasreloads.com/product-category/300-black-out/


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In some reading, I have seen where the BLK was supposed to be the next big CQB round, big heavy bullet at moderate velocities out of a smaller package...

However, some LEO's around my area partnered with Modern Carbine when they were still in Meridian, MS and started using the 6.8... From what I understand, they had to stop using it in their training house because it was punching through the steel-lined inner walls...

Within it's capabilities, I think the 300 overlaps a niche with the 5.56/.223 and the 6.8...

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So it's a pistol with a 10.5 barrel. It's mostly going to be a home defense if things get sticky but I'll throw it over my shoulder when I go pork chopping. I heard about how good of a round it is , then I go home to do some research and get bombarded by bad reviews. I think people are trying to use it for distance shooting which I have no want to do its strictly cqb or a bailout if charged by squealers. I plan on throwing a eotech on it since it has nothing , not even flip ups

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for hunting, it doesn't make nearly as much sense as a 6.8 or 6.5 Grendel.

However, for a PDW application it makes sense to me. It works well out of 7-8" barrels, and doesn't have the deal-breaking muzzle blast/noise that a short barrel 556 does. I've got a cheapie 8" upper, and it gets carried around a lot. Not shot a lot, it's there just in case. and I'm happier with a 300blk than I was with the 556 it replaced.

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I use mine for hogs. I can use the same can on the 300 that I use on my 308. The 6.8 is a better option IMHO. I don't see the need for a .223


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Originally Posted By: BuckshotBuddy
So it's a pistol with a 10.5 barrel. It's mostly going to be a home defense if things get sticky but I'll throw it over my shoulder when I go pork chopping. I heard about how good of a round it is , then I go home to do some research and get bombarded by bad reviews. I think people are trying to use it for distance shooting which I have no want to do its strictly cqb or a bailout if charged by squealers. I plan on throwing a eotech on it since it has nothing , not even flip ups


I suppose it makes more sense than before, though I would think a true pistol would be much handier.

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If you reload its awesome. You have a gun that shoots a 30 caliber bullet that you can load sub or supersonic. It can be suppressed, loaded to hunt with effectively, its small.

Its a neat versatile caliber to own in my opinion. I reload though. Factory, good ammo, can be high.

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