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Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 08:06 PM
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budward
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Anyone ever had this happened? Shot a does this past weekend and found a fetus, that was a first, made me feel kinda bad. I'm all about good herd management but im questioning whether this was a good decision.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
[Re: budward]
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01/20/17 08:10 PM
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I bet over %90 of hunters have...
Its just part of it and will not do anything to hurt your population unless your just at the brink of loosing your herd.. in that case you shouldn't be shooting any deer at all.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 08:10 PM
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best decision you could have made.....
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
[Re: budward]
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01/20/17 08:16 PM
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Shoot them early in the season to avoid the likelihood of this happening if it is bothersome to you.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
[Re: budward]
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01/20/17 08:17 PM
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but then you shooting your bait for the bucks too!
actually the chances of them already being serviced by Nov.1st is quite possible here
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 08:24 PM
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but then you shooting your bait for the bucks too!
actually the chances of them already being serviced by Nov.1st is quite possible here Possible, but a lot less likely, depending on where you are hunting. Just giving him a chance to take some does with less chances of that happening. I figure anytime you are taking out a doe, you are taking 2-3 mouths out for every year that that particular doe is productive whether you see it or not.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 08:33 PM
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Hunting in Kendall County most of the does we shot were bread already. We hunt in pretty far south texas now rut is tail end of December so most of the time we don't see any.
Don't look at it, don't touch it and poke it with your finger, don't show your wife get past it and on down the road. Its no different than if you had shot her before she was bread. They are not people they do not have souls. Shot one with one of my buddies that was bread early and he picked it up and started playing with it... that's just wrong.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 08:45 PM
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 08:53 PM
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Hunting in Kendall County most of the does we shot were bread already. We hunt in pretty far south texas now rut is tail end of December so most of the time we don't see any.
Don't look at it, don't touch it and poke it with your finger, don't show your wife get past it and on down the road. Its no different than if you had shot her before she was bread. They are not people they do not have souls. Shot one with one of my buddies that was bread early and he picked it up and started playing with it... that's just wrong. Pshhh you wouldn't like hangin around Cajuns.. that's a delicacy.. Pigs are better though.. like little skillets treats..
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 09:07 PM
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Prime example here of different thoughts for different people. My son shot andoe so my daughter could field dress it, she wanted to get her hands bloody and she didn't have the opportunity to shoot one that night due to us being sighted in the tree stand immediately (first time I ever got busted in that stand too). Anyway, doe was pregnant as it was late December/early January. Both my kids found it fascinating and we dissected the amniotic membrane and got the fetus out. I didn't think anything wrong with it, but it was a deer and not a human. Doesn't make us any more the freak animal abuser or anything, just means I have curious kids.
Now to do that to a human fetus or something would be a little wrong (more like a lot wrong) but don't tell that to Kermit grosnel...
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 09:09 PM
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Almost all late season does will be pregnant.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 09:15 PM
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My dad shot an impala doe with a new born. We've killed preggo fallow and axis doe but no WT that I know of.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 09:16 PM
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Prime example here of different thoughts for different people. My son shot andoe so my daughter could field dress it, she wanted to get her hands bloody and she didn't have the opportunity to shoot one that night due to us being sighted in the tree stand immediately (first time I ever got busted in that stand too). Anyway, doe was pregnant as it was late December/early January. Both my kids found it fascinating and we dissected the amniotic membrane and got the fetus out. I didn't think anything wrong with it, but it was a deer and not a human. Doesn't make us any more the freak animal abuser or anything, just means I have curious kids.
Now to do that to a human fetus or something would be a little wrong (more like a lot wrong) but don't tell that to Kermit grosnel... curiosity is one thing hopping it around like a stuffed animal and chopping it with a machete are different to me.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 09:22 PM
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 09:36 PM
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I killed one on January 17, 2015. She had twins. From what I could tell, she likely would have given birth sometime in March or early April. I can post a pic if you guys can stomach it.
This was the second time it had happened that I noticed. Same thing, late doe hunt probably in 2009-2010.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 10:07 PM
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Shoot the old does. Probability some of those old does can't get impregnated. Shooting impregnated does can't be avoided anyway, it will happen sometime.
Last edited by Big Stan; 01/20/17 10:11 PM.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 10:30 PM
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I will be shooting most of my does during bow season next year. 1- for practice with my bow. 2- so I can duck hunt more in late season.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 11:05 PM
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I haven't shot one in January that didn't have twin fetus.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 11:05 PM
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Every Axis doe you gut seems to have a fetus.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 11:08 PM
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I will be shooting most of my does during bow season next year. 1- for practice with my bow. 2- so I can duck hunt more in late season. I have pm'd you a couple of times asking if you have received my check but have not gotten an answer.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 11:28 PM
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I agree with a post above, I guess everyone's got there own stance. I understand how someone could feel bad looking at the dead fetus. But at the same time you killed a potential mother. Even if a doe isn't pregnant or just not far enough along to see the fetus hunters typically don't feel bad about killing the doe. If a hunter is upset they've removed a potential fawn from the next years herd you're doing the same thing killing the doe before she's breed.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 11:29 PM
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Have shot many pregnant does.
The only shot I ever felt bad about was a straight up blast to the jewels of a big boar walking away. Sure, it's a pig and someone had told me if you damage their nuts but they still produce a little testosterone they'll keep other boars from breeding but can't breed themselves, but it just felt wrong. Man code violation.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 11:30 PM
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 11:54 PM
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You killed a deer. If that doesn't bother you, neither should a second.
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Re: Shooting a doe with fetus
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01/20/17 11:59 PM
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You killed a deer. If that doesn't bother you, neither should a second. Yup....simple really....dead deer....next....
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