The whole point of the thread is that a bunch of Long Rangers don't have a clue. It's a valid point.

I wouldnt call the example a long ranger. If he was he would of already known that he was going to be off.

That's a <400 guy thinking a generic made turret is all encompassing

The OPs customer is shooting at long range without knowing what he is doing. So he's shooting at 500 and is 11 inches off and doesn't know why. Those type folks are everywhere.

whats a turret?

LOL! Good question. I almost lost it when a guy called in and said he wanted the specs on my ammo so he could get a new "turnip". I had him clarify the statement, and yes, he said turnip! That's almost as good as the Hornady Ballistic Tip!

I know you are itching to get into an argument about this, but there isn't one. The OPs customer is shooting at long range without knowing what he is doing. So he's shooting at 500 and is 11 inches off and doesn't know why. Those type folks are everywhere.

The "Long Ranger" moniker is a satirical name for the no-clue lead throwers I am referencing.

I flew an airplane from Nacogdoches to San Antonio when I was 17. The pilot never touched anything the whole time. It was easy - follow the VFR arrow and watch the horizon indicator. Does that make me a pilot? Heck no. I couldn't have taken off, landed, or gotten out of trouble if something went wrong.

I could hold the crosshairs steady and hit a gong at 800 if someone else either knew the dope for the exact conditions and/or had already established POI with previous shots. Does that make me a long range shooter? Heck no, I don't have a clue about all it took to get there.

Difference is, I know what I don't know. And I know there ain't no magic wand as so much equipment (like custom turrets, etc.) is advertised/marketed to be. Too many have bought into the hype.

Shouldn't this be in the optics section.

Just get closer.

That's the turret not the reticle. Try to take that scope LR past 700 you will max elevation adjustment out most likely.

My advice once you set it adjust it....via shooting it and mapping it out at those specific ranges. A) get practice b) it's not a guess at that point. Your factory ammo specs will be off.

The whole point of the thread is that a bunch of "wanna be" Long Rangers don't have a clue. It's a valid point.

Thanks for the education on this.

Chad I understand your point completely. I have 2 huskemaws and a 2 nightforces all with BCT on them. I shoot around 50 rounds a month 12 months a year. I have them for altitude ranges 2500,5000,7500,10000 ft. All are zero at 200yds but when I travel to hunt the first thing I do is re-zero at 500yds it takes very little time and takes most of the guessing out of the equation.If everyone that has a turret would be willing to do that most all there problems with hitting a deer would be eliminated. I shoot out too 1000 off my back porch often and would be willing to take a shot at a trophy at 800yds if I were on the ground and very little wind. But hunting in a tall box blind in 20 mph winds I have a hard time trying to get a steady hold on a animal at 500yds I shot a 163in buck last year that was in the scope out of the scope as the stand was moving at 365yds. No way I would have taken the shot if it would have been any further out. People that go buy the system and don't shoot it in high winds and practice alot are going to be disappointed. The systems work well for people who practice shooting small targets often at long distances.