When I said 'every other person' I was meaning half do, half don't. I had you (and me)in mind...

Chill out creedmoor. I watched you do the exact same thing last week on a thread about shot placement. The guy didn't ask about bullet choices but you had to chime in with your expert opinion anyways.

My understanding as well. So I've elected to save $200 and pick up the tiny benefit of a 16".

If you don't approve of my posts then feel free to use the ignore feature. Otherwise .......

And I know the post you are referring to. The post where you partially quoted me and made a smartazz remark. The post where I also apologized as I spoke my opinion. The post where I also answered the question that the OP originally asked.

Maybe it's you who need to chill out a bit.

I have a 16" 300blk AR and a 16.25" 300blk bolt rifle. I do like the caliber, and I've killed deer and hogs with it. That being said, I do like my Grendel more. It shoots a heavier bullet, faster.

I believe he asked for opinions. I.e. Good and bad. He didn't ask for only positive experiences. It would be hard to make a decision if he only got positive opinions. Some peoples opinion in that the .300 BO isn't a great choice for hunting. That doesn't mean they are attacking anybody, or trying to derail a thread. This is an open forum, and every has a right to voice their opinion. If the point of a gun is hunting white tails and pigs, then technically the 6.5 Grendel and the 6.8 both perform better. They are both available in the same AR15 package, so would both fit the criteria he has mentioned. That doesn't mean the 300BO is a BB gun, but numbers really don't lie, and the BO simply isn't quite as good as some other options. Doesn't mean it's not worth owning, I may even own one some day, but it might not always be the right choice.

300 BLK excels in short barrels and/or when suppressed. A 16" unsuppressed AR in 300 BLK doesn't take advantage of the two main benefits of the cartridge (efficiency in short barrels, suppressed use). In the case of a 16" unsuppressed gun used for hunting, there are other AR-15 calibers that are superior to the BLK.

IMO, this is why many people prefer SBRs instead of 16" guns when it comes to the BLK.

TTU - my 16" is more efficient. I get the same or marginally faster projectiles than your 8" suppressed for about $1,000 less because I don't pay two taxes and buy a suppressor. Wait, I do have some surefire ear plugs - $12.00

A blackout gets full powder burn at 10,5 barrel add a suppressor balanced gun
16 inch barrel with suppressor little long and front heavy

Oohhhhh! The 300 BLK excels at being more quiet. For an extra grand I could have pew pew pew, not Pew Pew Pew. Brilliant!

I think you're confused about what saying a cartridge is efficient in short barrels means. Of course you have added velocity in a 16" barrel over an 8" barrel. I never said the BLK is faster in an 8" barrel than a 16" barrel, that would make no sense.

Also, I was not referring to money/economics at all.

What I mean when I say the BLK is efficient in SBRs is that the BLK achieves a higher percentage of its maximum velocity in short barrels than most other calibers. You do not gain as many FPS per additional inch of barrel with the BLK as you would with the 5.55, 6.8, 6.5 G, etc. That is the efficiency advantage of the 300 BLK I am referring to.

For example (using make-believe numbers for demonstration purposes only) the 300 BLK might only gain 10% more velocity when going from 8" to 16" of barrel, while 6.8 might gain 25% more velocity. In this example, the 300 BLK would be considered more efficient than the 6.8. Now, obviously this will vary from barrel to barrel, load to load, etc., but I'm just trying to make things simple.

Have you ever shot subs through a suppressed 300 BLK SBR?

If you didn't intend to take advantages of the 300BLK, I'm curious why you chose it. Do you still shoot subsonic rounds unsuppressed? If so, that would make sense.

Ok - Now I understand Efficiency as you use the term. And I take your word for it that it does in fact achieve maximum velocity in fewer inches of barrel. Unfortunately, your sbr gets to a max velocity which is slower than my 16". AND I saved $1,000.

Nope, I shoot things larger than house cats.

I've never shot subsonic rounds. I got a 300blk to shoot pigs because it carries a little more energy in the 50-125 yrd range than my 5.56. Understanding I'm giving up range in the trade off.

I tried to explain it simply, but your response shows that you're still not understanding. At this point, I'm pretty convinced you're trolling. Maybe I just did a poor job of explaining or oversimplified things. Either way, lets move on.

Dude just stop it's obvious to everyone except you that you have no clue what you are talking about.

When someone uses "pew pew pew" in a reply and thinks an 8" 300blk costs $1000 more the a 16" 300blk, I think it's pretty clear they don't know what they are talking about.

Yep

Pretty sure he's trolling, but if a guy didn't have a 30cal can, a suppressed blackout sbr would be about a grand higher to put together than a 16" gun without a suppressor.

By the time you pay for two stamps and a suppressor, you're getting close.

Very true ,but why rip on using the caliber to the best of its capabilities
It as a wide range off shooting configurations which lends to more ways
To take game with the same rifle

True my posts have come off a trollish.

True the 300 SBR Supressed most efficiently achieves what it is designed to do.

True 300 BLK offers a "a wide range of configurations"

What gets me twisted is when one individual speaks of how they enjoy their 16" non-suppressed 300 blk only to be informed that they aren't configuring it properly or using it to it's full potential.

That is all.

Same here. I fully understand the purpose of the cartridge and what it can and CAN'T do. Been through that entire conversation already .......

Instead of bashing it I would much rather have a civil conversation about the multitude of options an owner has with barrel lengths and other configurations that can be had. It's a FUN caliber to shoot.

Kinda like my 22Hornet, there are much better cartridges out there but I love to shoot the little gun.

I agree, it's in bad taste to criticize a gun somebody has already built, and is already enjoying. I also though, don't think there is a thing wrong with asking somebody why they chose to build a gun the way they did. But if a guy is asking for opinions good and bad about a rifle he is planning to purchase, there is not a thing wrong with criticizing a calibers weaknesses.