Which manufacture carries 12 gauge subsonic loads for hunting ducks and geese? Is there such a thing? If so, who carries it?

Just go get some heavy metal and a patternmaster choke tube and be done with it!! Deadly combination!!

this x2 for sure... that's all I shoot... you don't need anything faster than 1500fps.

The only factory load is a steel 7. Not really a duck load. I worked up some hand loads back in August and needed to send them to ballistic products to get pressure tested but I got bogged down with work/ hunting. If you have the stuff to load, I wouldn't mind sharing the recipe. Ive already tested the velocity out of an old gun in a vice with a long string. But it would be an absolute must to pressure test them. I hope to finalize the project in the spring.

Metro Barrel I presume? Your probably going to have to load your own.


Never handloaded these myself, but saved then data from somewhere. I have a metro barrel I got at a price I could not refuse, but it needs a shotgun with Browning Invector Plus choke system to mount it on. I still need to find a cheap used pump gun to dedicate to it.

Heavy Goose ◦Federal 3" 12 Guage Hull
Federal 209-A Primer
19 grs Alliant "Steel" Powder
1 1/4 oz. T Steel or other type of heavy, non-toxic shot
3" steel shot wad, or BP Pattern Driver
MV 983 fps
Pattern with Modified Choke: 89% @ 40 Yards


Goose / Duck ◦2 3/4" Federal 12 Gauge Hull
Federal 209-A Primer
20 grs Herco Powder
1 1/4 oz. T Steel(Goose) or BB Steel (Duck)
MV 869 fps
Pattern with Modified Choke: 91.8% @ 40 Yards