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At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/27/16 02:53 PM
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The memory cards are gone from two of my game cams. I guess they think they are 'honest' poachers, by not taking the whole camera.
The cameras near the gate and the cabin were not touched, so I'm assuming it was Hog Doggers again. What is it with these arragant, disrespectful a..h0les that think they can run thier dogs anywhere they want?
...well, I guess it's time to check the property lines to see what fences they cut.
We all need to practice Whoa more.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 02:57 PM
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That's sad nak. Might be time to put a gamecam up higher and hidden to catch 'em.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 03:33 PM
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Damn man that sucks. Hate to hear it.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 03:43 PM
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Bunch of people getting hit right now. Sucks and hopefully they will get what they deserve soon.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 03:47 PM
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What will the cops do? I really like to think most on here would not retaliate. ... 
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 03:55 PM
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Really the only answer is to have a camera that emails pics to you. That way even if they steal the camera the evidence of them being there should be in your email or text and they cant access that.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/27/16 04:01 PM
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Really the only answer is to have a camera that emails pics to you. That way even if they steal the camera the evidence of them being there should be in your email or text and they cant access that. If I was having this issue with trespassers, I would definitely put up the extra $$ to get one that emails/texts photos to you.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/27/16 04:05 PM
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Camera watching the camera might work as well.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 04:43 PM
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Is it a lease? I'd have a lease agreement that you will shoot all dogs on sight if they are on your place.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/27/16 04:59 PM
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Shoot mans best friend on SITE, Put the blame where its due, dog is doing as instructed, celebrity ?
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 05:12 PM
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i'd be scared my dogs might step in a trap or eat some poison someone had out for varmints if i were somewhere that i didn't know the land owner
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/27/16 05:17 PM
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Shoot mans best friend on SITE, Put the blame where its due, dog is doing as instructed, celebrity ? Are you saying shoot the owner?
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 05:39 PM
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I'm not shooting any dogs unless they are immediately threatening. This is a people issue! We have had four thefts and three break- ins to the cabin in three years. They got the kids go kart and an outboard motor last time. Both secured with 1/2" security cables.
I've looked into cell based game cameras, but most of my property has very marginal service, especially down near the river. I'm looking into camera systems where several cameras use wifi to communicate with a central hub that I could mount way up in a tree, with a big yagi antenna and a solar panel, but that is big bucks. I'm not sure if it's worth the money. Ive already provided good pictures of trespassers to the SO, including a license plate that you could read, but nothing ever comes out of it.
East Tx has such a bad reputation for poaching in general. At times I consider just throwing in the towel and selling the place. I have watched a pair of young 8 points last fall on the gam cams. Neither would make 13" but both disappeared before rifle season ever started. The generally acceptable hunting ethic in this area seems to be "if it moves, shoot it". Fences and locked gates are just a minor annoyance..bolt cutters seem to be hunting equipment around here. I find shotgun hulls and beer cans around the little oxbow lake every year.
We all need to practice Whoa more.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 05:44 PM
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This is the reason I stopped leasing in East Texas years ago.
It's sad there are so many in this part of our state that have zero respect for what you own.
Last edited by Pitchfork Predator; 08/27/16 05:45 PM.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/27/16 07:28 PM
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Is that a rhetorical question ? pitchfork ? nak has it about right, in east texas the locals consider most of the land and all of the wildlife as there own you are simply the most recent tax payer. the Dogs get a bad rap because of bad owners.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 09:13 PM
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Of course it was....but if it was my land and I had the opportunity to shoot the dog I would SSS and that would be the last time that dog hunted on my land. Not being the dogs fault would not change my mind. That's the risk it's owner takes letting the dog hunt my land. I care about my dog enough that I would not put it's life in danger, if they don't feel that way about theirs 
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/27/16 09:26 PM
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Camera watching the camera might work as well. I did this. After about 6 months my camera card finally got stolen again, and the battery was dead on my spy cam. 
![[Linked Image]](https://live.staticflickr.com/848/43929693942_36eb4b30cb_m.jpg) "Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/27/16 09:35 PM
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Of course it was....but if it was my land and I had the opportunity to shoot the dog I would SSS and that would be the last time that dog hunted on my land. Not being the dogs fault would not change my mind. That's the risk it's owner takes letting the dog hunt my land. I care about my dog enough that I would not put it's life in danger, if they don't feel that way about theirs x2
![[Linked Image]](https://live.staticflickr.com/848/43929693942_36eb4b30cb_m.jpg) "Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/27/16 09:44 PM
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Of course it was....but if it was my land and I had the opportunity to shoot the dog I would SSS and that would be the last time that dog hunted on my land. Not being the dogs fault would not change my mind. That's the risk it's owner takes letting the dog hunt my land. I care about my dog enough that I would not put it's life in danger, if they don't feel that way about theirs  exactly
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
[Re: nak]
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08/27/16 10:51 PM
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I would hide the cameras real well in an inconspicuous location to try and catch them. Also let the game warden know what's going on! I have a friend who has land in east Texas with similar issues as you. The game warden has gone out of his way to help catch the culprits. Turned out to be an adjacent landowner.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/28/16 12:00 AM
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I had a camera way up in a tree, very well hidden, facing the gate, with another decoy camera that was easy to spot. That is how I got the last set of pictures that included their truck plates. I turned those over to the Sheriff's office and told them I wanted to press charges. I never heard back from them.
A few months later, there was another robbery and they used a pipe or something to bash the hidden camera up and knock it out if the tree. It's almost like they knew where to look for it...like maybe they had seen pictures taken from that angle.
We all need to practice Whoa more.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/28/16 12:20 AM
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I had a camera way up in a tree, very well hidden, facing the gate, with another decoy camera that was easy to spot. That is how I got the last set of pictures that included their truck plates. I turned those over to the Sheriff's office and told them I wanted to press charges. I never heard back from them.
A few months later, there was another robbery and they used a pipe or something to bash the hidden camera up and knock it out if the tree. It's almost like they knew where to look for it...like maybe they had seen pictures taken from that angle.
Dang. If what you're implying is true, it's a rigged game. I would be very tempted to sell and leave the in-bred lowlifes to their sad little lives. The best revenge is living well.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/28/16 02:49 AM
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I had a camera way up in a tree, very well hidden, facing the gate, with another decoy camera that was easy to spot. That is how I got the last set of pictures that included their truck plates. I turned those over to the Sheriff's office and told them I wanted to press charges. I never heard back from them.
A few months later, there was another robbery and they used a pipe or something to bash the hidden camera up and knock it out if the tree. It's almost like they knew where to look for it...like maybe they had seen pictures taken from that angle.
Dang. If what you're implying is true, it's a rigged game. I would be very tempted to sell and leave the in-bred lowlifes to their sad little lives. The best revenge is living well. A member here was good enough to get me the info on the license plate. Pictures and tax records do not lie... I found an old LinkedIn page with that name, and the picture matched the person on my game cam photo, caught climbing through the gate (right next to the No Trespass sign). The LinkedIn page showed an association with law enforcement in another state, that ended right before property tax record in this county show they bought a home here. (The worst house on a bad street.) Things get scary in a hurry when you have reason to suspect a link like that. I decided it was best not to pursue the info I had any further.
We all need to practice Whoa more.
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Re: At least that's all they stole...this time
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08/28/16 10:26 AM
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Texas Penal Code 42.092. Shooting a dog that isn't threatening human life or livestock is against the law. That is as low as stealing other people's property. Take whatever actions necessary to protect yourself, family, and property within bounds of the law by all means. But breaking the law in an act of vengeance puts you on the same moral ground as the filthy low lives (probably tweakers) that are ripping you off.
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