Yep, and handwarmers come in various sizes.

Yes, they do. But he didn't say footwarmer or whatever. I have found that when they are "handwarmers", they are very similar in size. LOL...

Sighted in 4 thermals today using handwarmers on white paper. No issues. One is an ATN.

The larger handwarmers are roughly 3 times the size of probably what you are thinking about, hence why I asked about the size.

I'm shooting an M&P AR-10. Have a Larue equipped glass scope that shoots half dollar size groupings at 100 yds on the same rifle. 150 grain rounds.

I made some good progress on Tuesday, but had to rush around given I didn't have a whole lot of time. I'm going to my lease Saturday and will get there early enough so I can relax, take my time and come up with a target array (foil, foot warmer size pads and tape to create a target design to help with definition). Will also take some video for you to see.

I really do understand entry level is entry level, knew that when I bought it. I'm just trying to figure out what the limits will be. I'm adding a garage addition on to the house, vehicle to buy for my soon to be 16 yr old, custom interior for car project, etc. Never ending list we all have. $5k scope just can't make the list for a while.

Get your popcorn ready for Sunday night.

Thanks for the help.

Charlie

I've had no problems using foil on a white background. Normally the foil will me cooler on a warm day. I start at 50 and verify at 200. I recommend a 2moa piece of foil to make viewing easier.

Best of luck Charlie!

We all have priorities in life. I didn't get my better hunring gear unril later.

You can also go in the other direction and put a cube of ice in whatever size plastic bag you want the target to be. The cube will cool everything inside the bag and holds up a good while. I did manage to hit the ice cube twice in a row with my Apex XD50A at 100 yds. Fun to watch the splatter on the backer.

Ice is another good one. Doesn't have to be hot to see it. Extra cold shows up good too. You'll get there. It's takes some getting used to compared to a regular scope.

Hey Charlie, did you ever get your Thermal sighted in? How did it go?

I did... Decided 50 yds was going to be my mark. Went to the stand, but no participants that night.

I'll be back out in a week or two.

Charlie

In hot weather I use a small piece of sponge or foam on the Bull and saturate it with the butane (or whatever it is) in "Canned air" like you use for cleaning a computer.