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Re: Double Down Feed
[Re: STXHO]
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07/18/16 01:29 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Broadonarod=cornhead=Holden.
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/18/16 04:53 PM
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Exactly what are you leaving? Pretty much everyone knows what Holden is doing. The real question is if that can be replicated across the state from feed in a bag. Time will tell but if I was a betting man I know which side of the line my dollar would fall. There are some serious operations that have made the switch. They keep meticulous records on everything including how much rainfall, consumption rates, as well as all of the usual deer data. In 5-7 years, it will be known if this feed is what it claims to be or just another marketing gimmick that seems to plague the hunting industry.
Let'em grow old
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/18/16 05:07 PM
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I don't feed it but based on all your experience what is it about the feed that would cause you to bet against it living up to it's claims?
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/18/16 05:32 PM
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NEVAGA
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Feeders are for lazy people
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/18/16 05:34 PM
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Feeders are for lazy people You've obviously never filled feeders.
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/18/16 05:45 PM
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NEVAGA
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Feeders are for lazy people You've obviously never filled feeders. and I never will.
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/18/16 05:52 PM
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don k
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Feed wars are getting better than the HF-LF wars. I just made a trip to Kerrville for more pop corn.
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/18/16 06:59 PM
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Exactly what are you leaving? Pretty much everyone knows what Holden is doing. The real question is if that can be replicated across the state from feed in a bag. Time will tell but if I was a betting man I know which side of the line my dollar would fall. There are some serious operations that have made the switch. They keep meticulous records on everything including how much rainfall, consumption rates, as well as all of the usual deer data. In 5-7 years, it will be known if this feed is what it claims to be or just another marketing gimmick that seems to plague the hunting industry. I understand what you are saying but if you would read the testimonials and listen to what people are saying about they feed you would see that is already happening. I am not feeding DD on 9 ranches because I think its "cool" I'm feeding it because it works. I pay the same amount for the feed as everyone else. Several pastures on the King Ranch, Kennedy, and Junco have switched. I doubt they did it because its the "cool" thing to do. Everyone has their own opinion and each hunter has a different budget, maybe DD isn't for everyone but I will say everyone I have talked to that is feeding DD has been very pleased. Have a good day guys.
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Re: Double Down Feed
[Re: don k]
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07/18/16 07:21 PM
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Feed wars are getting better than the HF-LF wars. I just made a trip to Kerrville for more pop corn. I hope you brought the trailer too your going to need it.
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/18/16 08:10 PM
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Exactly what are you leaving? Pretty much everyone knows what Holden is doing. The real question is if that can be replicated across the state from feed in a bag. Time will tell but if I was a betting man I know which side of the line my dollar would fall. There are some serious operations that have made the switch. They keep meticulous records on everything including how much rainfall, consumption rates, as well as all of the usual deer data. In 5-7 years, it will be known if this feed is what it claims to be or just another marketing gimmick that seems to plague the hunting industry. I understand what you are saying but if you would read the testimonials and listen to what people are saying about they feed you would see that is already happening. I am not feeding DD on 9 ranches because I think its "cool" I'm feeding it because it works. I pay the same amount for the feed as everyone else. Several pastures on the King Ranch, Kennedy, and Junco have switched. I doubt they did it because its the "cool" thing to do. Everyone has their own opinion and each hunter has a different budget, maybe DD isn't for everyone but I will say everyone I have talked to that is feeding DD has been very pleased. Have a good day guys. "each hunter has a different budget, maybe DD isn't for everyone" This part of the argument that keeps getting thrown out there isn't doing DD feed any favors. Some guys keep trying to insinuate that those who don't believe or won't drink the koolaid are driven by finances (or lack thereof). I can't speak for anyone other than myself. I can afford to feed whatever and as much as needed, but I'm not going to throw an extra $50-$100/ton at something that doesn't get me a 15%-25% improvement in herd health, body weights, fawn survival and inches of antler. I tried DD and saw no change, other than less consumption by some of our deer. This entire DD thing reminds me of that old saying Fletcher used on the Senator in Outlaw Josey Wales
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Re: Double Down Feed
[Re: BowsnRods]
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07/18/16 08:25 PM
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I heard that the Republican National Convention will be discussing DD and its Usefulness in destroying Isis. " Lets make Feeding Deer Fun Again" Pretty catchy slogan! I am a true supporter of the NRA,TDA,SAPOA,CCA and DD'A. My Friends Life is too short, we all want to grow the biggest deer possible and most will take chances at trying different products to accomplish this task! I am one of those people, please find this post as an opportunity to share experiences and not blasting on those who do!
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/18/16 09:37 PM
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rtp
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Exactly what are you leaving? Pretty much everyone knows what Holden is doing. The real question is if that can be replicated across the state from feed in a bag. Time will tell but if I was a betting man I know which side of the line my dollar would fall. There are some serious operations that have made the switch. They keep meticulous records on everything including how much rainfall, consumption rates, as well as all of the usual deer data. In 5-7 years, it will be known if this feed is what it claims to be or just another marketing gimmick that seems to plague the hunting industry. I understand what you are saying but if you would read the testimonials and listen to what people are saying about they feed you would see that is already happening. I am not feeding DD on 9 ranches because I think its "cool" I'm feeding it because it works. I pay the same amount for the feed as everyone else. Several pastures on the King Ranch, Kennedy, and Junco have switched. I doubt they did it because its the "cool" thing to do. Everyone has their own opinion and each hunter has a different budget, maybe DD isn't for everyone but I will say everyone I have talked to that is feeding DD has been very pleased. Have a good day guys. I dont think anyone is saying it isnt a good feed. The question is whether or not it is better than the proven feeds that have been on the market for years. It hasnt been around long enough to know one way or the other. The range conditions have been phenomenal of late after many years of drought or below avg rain. That has hindered getting a good year over year comparison. People are paying a premium for the feed because it is something they believe in but that will change if they are feeding more, paying more per ton for it and the feed doesnt live up to its claims. Like I said this is going to be a wait and see game. Holden and his army have marketed the hell out of it so kudos to them. That is what any business should do. Now it just has to live up to the marketing claims. I hope it is what it claims to be. By the time I decide to get back into the game it should be known and would make things a lot easier on growing big deer. Instead of a pasture full of mature 130"+ bucks, it should be full of mature 160" bucks. One thing that is for sure, it dang sure makes them fatter.
Let'em grow old
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/18/16 10:30 PM
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Feed wars are getting better than the HF-LF wars. I just made a trip to Kerrville for more pop corn. Wait till the resident expert that's shot 2 deer in their Life chimes in Would it help if I shot the Deer eating the said feed with a .223
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 01:17 AM
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I don't feed it but based on all your experience what is it about the feed that would cause you to bet against it living up to it's claims? Sorry missed this earlier.......a lifetime of marketing claims not being met I suppose. The hunting and fishing industry is full of them. I guess Im a little more cautious than some. If I had a proven feed that I was satisfied with, I dont think I would jump on a new feed lock stock and barrel. I would have probably switched out a couple of pastures for a couple of years to compare. Again, I got out of the game last year so I dont have a dog in the hunt, just an opinion like everyone else.
Let'em grow old
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 01:19 AM
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Feed wars are getting better than the HF-LF wars. I just made a trip to Kerrville for more pop corn. Wait till the resident expert that's shot 2 deer in their Life chimes in My favorite. The guy who hasnt ever managed a property with anything but a bullet shooting "culls" to help the deer herd is a close second.
Let'em grow old
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 01:27 AM
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Mine will just have to struggle with corn here at the house and peanuts and wheat in the panhandle.
Talent is a gift, character is a decision.
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 01:57 AM
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Only Pet deer use feeders
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 02:53 AM
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I will defend DD fee to the extent that their calcium to phosphorous ratio is closer to 1:1 than most feeds ratio of 2:1. Phosphorous is expensive so some premium over other feeds can be expected. I've always thought that, feed that had an ideal ratio of 2:1 being fed as a supplement on phosphorus deficient range, didn't make much sense, because it wouldn't make up for the shortages in the natural food.
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 04:01 AM
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I simply can't afford to feed DD feed. This yearling and 3 2 year olds would be way too big at 3 and 4 to be affordable to the larger market. I'll just have to keep on feeding antler max to keep my bucks affordable.
Crotchety old bastidge
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 12:47 PM
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 12:48 PM
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I don't feed it but based on all your experience what is it about the feed that would cause you to bet against it living up to it's claims? Sorry missed this earlier.......a lifetime of marketing claims not being met I suppose. The hunting and fishing industry is full of them. I guess Im a little more cautious than some. If I had a proven feed that I was satisfied with, I dont think I would jump on a new feed lock stock and barrel. I would have probably switched out a couple of pastures for a couple of years to compare. Again, I got out of the game last year so I dont have a dog in the hunt, just an opinion like everyone else.
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 06:44 PM
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Since you were kind enough to leave this here, I decided to peruse the comments and photos. Page 44, post number 437 shows almost one month's growth. Do you consider that to be impressive results from the DD feed? Looks VERY average if not a bit below to me. Can't wait to see astounding before and after photos from others feeding (and not pimping) DD deer feed.
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 07:14 PM
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Mine will just have to struggle with corn here at the house and peanuts and wheat in the panhandle. The struggle is real. How will they ever survive?
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/19/16 07:34 PM
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This is as fun as the "Keep It Going" thread.
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Re: Double Down Feed
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07/20/16 02:12 AM
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This is as fun as the "Keep It Going" thread. I dont know about that.....popcorn keeps getting stuck in my teeth.
Let'em grow old
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