We had the dog wars... Land lived on was at one time for cattle... The land across the road was broken up inta tracks & sold.. A neighbor bought dogs & let them run chasing cattle... Words were spoken, dog shot, then payback, & person just bought more dogs... We kept ours on leash... We had been adopting stray dogs as pets ever since kids were little... Last stray got loose & found her at end of driveway shot...
Have posted bout the dogs keeping the hogs away, tough patterning them... Been in stand, dogs walk threw, pet em at the mail box, usualy give a yell an they run home... They also change deer patterns also... Don't have ta mess with it no more... do know what ya going threw... Best wishes... We've always adopted the stray dogs...

I don't ever see an occasion where the dogs should be shot (unless they were aggressive toward you or livestock). They are just doing what they have been trained to do. I understand the frustration, but all the responsibility lies with the dogs owner.

Catch the dogs and take them to animal control. IF the owner shows up, tell them where to find their dogs.

If you have any kind of livestock or fowl, the entire thing shifts into your court.

Everyplace I hunt, including family property has cows. I have been instructed by every landowner since I was 18 to shoot any dog, collar or not. I let one go once, and explained to the land owner that the dog seemed harmless, he was furious, he explained that the dog had been seen chasing cattle. I have always been a bit concerned about legal issues if I shoot someones dog.

Yes, I agree. Easy for me because I am a dog lover. My anger is not directed at the Hog Dogs, its the 'Hog Doggers' and a culmination of bad experiences.

And while I agree there are probably responsible Hog Doggers out there, I have yet to meet one. Could just be my bad luck...or it might speak to the attitudes of many who run dogs, I don't know. WAY tired of it...though.

Couldn't animal control pick up the dogs, take them to the pound and then charge the owners X amount to release them back to the owners.. Especially if the dogs didn't have proper collars and tags on when they arrived to pick up the strays.....

Also, other land owners may not be as kind as you and actually apply the SSS method.

Maybe you could SSS their tracking collars lol. Just try into figure out to stick a thorn in the dog owners side without messing with the dogs.

Sorry about your situation, some of my dads neighbors would rather buy 4 wheelers and other toys then a fence to contain their dogs. My dad hunts and sees them on his game cameras too often. He has approached these neighbors multiple times, and they finally recently put up a fence.

But the amount of deer and wildlife in the neighborhood was noticeably less this past deer season with 6 dogs running around a 750 acre neighborhood whose favorite thing to do was chase wildlife all day. The neighborhood has about 10 landowners that live there full time.

There are plenty, trust me. Dogs are just another tool in a serious pig hunters arsenal. Rule #1, don't run dogs on a small property. Rule #2, if hunting a larger property don't turn the dogs loose if you're near a neighbor's property. It's that simple. If near a neighbor's property you use a rifle. There are some neighbors that are OK with the occasional trespass as long as you kill that pig and get out as quietly and quickly as possible. A true pig dog is only after pigs, and will die to catch him and hold him for you. They will not bother/chase your deer or exotics. I respect a good pig dog more than I do most people.

Well said.

Place these on your gates and fences. Then follow thru with setting some to do your own "predator" control.

Agreed. A GOOD dog will not go off 'trashin' and his/her drive to catch/bay a pig is the very reason they end up where ever the pig takes them.

Some (if not most hog doggers), will assert that any dog worth having can not be called off, or called back. So the logical outcome...is dogs on other peoples property IF the hunter violates Rule #1 & #2.




True, but they don't have to "chase" them to have a negative effect. Both Deer and Hogs that HAVE been chased before will vacate the area when they hear dogs nearby.

The Deer come back quickly, but the hogs normally do not. I put a lot of effort into trapping hogs, which can involve baiting them for a week or more before setting the trap door. Only, to have dogs come through and blow them out.

We are interested in catching and killing as many as we can...in order to reduce the population. We are NOT interested in just swapping hogs with our neighbors or temporarily running the hogs off.

The exception to that...is when we get a lone Boar that we just can't trap or pattern to snare or shoot. Or if the area is too thick to get access to him. Then...we call someone with dogs, but it is a rare thing. Dogs can be a useful tool, I've said that from the start.



I have respected the pig dogs more than the people running them in every case so far!

(Those we have called to help, the exception).

pin a note on their Collar stating that next time they enter Your Property, they will not be seen again

This is a false statement, this is what the dog hunters want you to believe, its like the sign on the back of dump trucks saying not responsible for broken windshields.

The trucks are responsible for every little piece of material that falls out and damage it causes, and the dog hunters are responsible for every thing their dogs do.

The way I see it a dog chasing hog across my property is no different to finding someone sitting in my deer stand opening day or any day for that matter. Texas state law agrees with me.

TLM, I think providing the particular Texas code that applies here would be very enlightening. Maybe an explanation of what it is that can be done and how would be great. Obviously, this is a problem that is recurring for many individuals who could use the help.

I know I hear about this issue more and more these days. In a lot of places there are failure to control laws, but I'm thinking that prolly isn't so much a thing in rural counties.

It would be nice to know from a LEO standpoint what can be done and how...and if there are state laws since counties vary so much.

I was born and raised in east TX. My own kith and kin are hoggers from generations back. There are dang few hoggers that give two chits about where their dogs go - or where they go for that matter. Their motto is "It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission." 95% of the time the LOs never know.

That's just the reality of it.

I got a about a 12 year old boy and his dogs all over my place , got pics on trail cams him coming and going . He carries a toy riffle. got posted signs out . My worry is my tree stands are ok if you are careful , the really bad stands I have knocked the ladders down . I guess I need to knock all my ladders down to keep him out of the stands.

My thoughts are in line with TxLawman. Fault does rest with the hog doggers. And though it isn't the dogs' fault, they are still the problem that's in your face. I think that the decision that a person will have to eventually make is to shoot the dogs or not shoot the dogs. Some folks would like to dance around that issue rather than face it. It's your choice. Luckily, i don't have the problem, but if I did have the recurring problem, I know what I'd do.

That may be true in East Texas, that doesn't mean it's that way in the rest of the state. Believe it or not, not all pig doggers are A-holes guys. Let's just say I know a few, and 8 out of 10 of them do their best to stay off of properties they don't have permission to be on.

I was born and raised in east TX. My own kith and kin are hoggers from generations back. There are dang few hoggers that give two chits about where their dogs go - or where they go for that matter. Their motto is "It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission." 95% of the time the LOs never know.

That's just the reality of it. [/quote]

That may be true in East Texas, that doesn't mean it's that way in the rest of the state. Believe it or not, not all pig doggers are A-holes guys. Let's just say I know a few, and 8 out of 10 of them do their best to stay off of properties they don't have permission to be on. [/quote]

Aren't the two of you confirming what many people believe? That guys who run dogs will trespass to retrieve their dogs/hogs with or without land owner permission and by doing so, blatantly disregard the land owner's rights. If that's the case, I wonder how these same guys would feel about people hunting their land or leases without permission?

How are you blatantly disregarding LO's rights if you had permission to occasionally cross a property line to recover a dog? There is a difference between recovering your dog and getting out vs hunting someone's property. Have you never crossed a property line to recover a wounded animal? By doing so does that mean you are hunting the property? I mentioned earlier the best ways to avoid a trespass all together. How they do things in the cross eyed woods of East Texas is not how all pig doggers operate. If you run dogs long enough sooner or later one is going to cross a property line though. If you hunt with a gun or bow long enough sooner or later you are going to have to cross a fence to recover an animal. Now, HUNTING on someone's property and blatantly ignoring property lines is obviously a no no. It sounds like it happens in E Texas more than anywhere else in the State.

Legally, yes, that is considered hunting according to the Game Warden at the hunter safety class I took. That falls under the definition of hunt - To capture, trap, take, or kill, and includes any attempt to capture, trap, take, or kill. https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/hunting/general-regulations/definitions

Perhaps technically, yes. Hard for me to consider it hunting though when you leave your gun at the fence. I consider that as recovering. Every land owner I've ever called or talked to didn't have a problem with it and didn't consider us as hunting their property. Now if you made a habit of it, yes I would consider that a problem.

You said 8-10 hog doggers do their best to stay off property they don't have permission to hunt. You also said if you hunt dogs long enough you'll cross property lines. That tells me they will cross property lines if needed, but try to avoid doing so. If they have LO permission then it's all is good, but without LO permission it's still trespassing. If someone's hog dog crosses my fence in pursuit of a pig then your hunting my property. Again, if you have permission all is good, but without my permission you're blatantly disregarding my LO rights.

I've never crossed property lines to recover an animal, but a lease member had his buck run onto an adjoining property after being shot this past season. We stopped the recovery efforts at the fence line and made contact with the land owner to ask his permission to recover the deer. Permission was given and we recovered the deer the following morning.m that's how it should work, or call the Game Warden to determine if anything can be done to recover an animal that's crossed property lines.