I would like to buy a 7mm-08 but i cant fined much information on them so I am asking for advice i pick up 2 at the gun shop one was a weatherby vanguard 2 i did not cycle the action or try the triger so idonot know much about them the then it did not feel bad and the mosburg with a fluted barrel and bolt it was nice and like and fealty really good but i dont know how they shoot i know there 243 was not so great but i can get it with a wood stock for around 500$ what are some options and why i dont really want to go over 650 if i can help it and no combo deals i like accurate guns the more acuter the better. i dont put a lot of stock in names as steven and savage are some of the most accurate on the market i was think of the savage 10 with accutriger but i am just stuck on this one i would apricate some help deciding what to get and pice that is expected to pay for one

I really like the Ruger American in your price range. Allot of gun for the money

700. You're welcome.

I wonder if I should repeat myself....

It won't hurt anything.

The only alternative is trying to come up with a new answer, every time the same old question comes up.

If you're interested in used guns, it's hard to go wrong with a Remington 788. They're just plain, no frills rifles but they are great shooters.

Tikka. Scope it and work it like a rented mule.

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There you go JG.

My friend.

You should buy that used Howa for $300

Great choice but 7mm-08 Is one of the rarest calibers in that rifle and commands a price point you could buy a Tikka in the same caliber for unless the 788 is in poor condition.

Of the 2 in the OP, I would opt for the Howa. The 7mm-08 has been one of my favorite calibers for the 33 years I have owned on in a 788.

I would quit buying new rifles for a little while and get yourself the reloading equipment you've been wanting.

I agree. The Vanguard is a Howa re-marked by Weatherby. I like the Tikka better, but it will cost you twice as much as the Vanguard. And.....with your savings, you could get started on reloading, as another poster has suggested.

Yeah, I didn't really think about it from that angle. I forgot how hard they are to find in 7mm-08. I got a good deal on mine in 22-250 and I sometimes tend to lump most of the other calibers together in my mind.

I have yet to see any evidence that the Tikka is twice as good as a Vanguard 2. In fact, I haven't seen any evidence that the Tikka is as good as a Vanguard 2.

The Weatherby synthetic stock is much better, the bolt shroud is made of metal, as is the trigger guard.

Weatherby does more than just re-mark the Howa. Same with Nosler. Both outfits offer a better finish, better barrels, and better stocks on the excellent Howa action, one of the best to be had at any price.

One Tikka or two Weatherby Vanguards? - I'll take the Weatherbys of course.

Lovin it

Charles, as far as normal shooting is concerned, you make a good point. However, there are many on here that shoot far more than "normal" and want what they feel is best for the long haul. Aesthetics make little difference.....Savage extractors are prone to giving up, Remington triggers need to be replaced and Weatherby/Howa barrels are difficult to replace, enough so that some gunsmiths won't do it. Tikka.

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Excellent post.

Here goes Charles talking badly about smiths that won't rebarrel a Howa. Wait for it...

Oh, and now we have a Tikka fanboy who angers easily.

Amazing how Weatherby and Nosler have no problem barreling a Howa action.

Remingtons have much more serious deficiencies than the Walker trigger. - They're pure junk - at a premium price.

There are aftermarket parts to address the deficiencies in a Tikka - but at that price, you have to wonder why they can't just go ahead and do the job right at the factory. - They get the action and the trigger right.

I'm a huge fan of the 7-08. Enough so, in fact, that I plan on taking it to Namibia next July to see what a 140TTSX or Etip will do to some Namibian plains game. I've had several different makes, band still believe the Tikka is a great pick. BTW, a Nosler is not a rebadged Howa, but they are similar.

Wow! Look at your post and his post and tell me who appears angry. He even said you made a good point. You seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder and constantly look for someone to jump on.
You also seem to love the term "fanboy". So if someone simply likes a certain brand does that make them a fanboy? Are you a Weatherby fanboy?

My son uses a Ruger American with handloads.

Outstanding round.

Yes, they are so similar that they come out of the same factory. Like Weatherby, Nosler specifies a few cosmetic changes at the Howa factory so it will look slightly different. Nosler wants the "squared off" look - but note that it still takes the same scope mounts, has the same bolt etc.. The points of 'similarity' far outweigh the few cosmetic differences that Nosler presumably pays so much for.

Surely you are not under the impression that Nosler is making those actions under license or something.

The Tikkas, by all accounts are fine rifles. - But are they worth twice the price of a Howa or Weatherby? - I don't think so.

7mm-08 is a good cartridge. Considering the fact that there is no Tikka short action though, if it were me I'd be looking at cartridges that fit the action, if I were going with a Tikka.

I wasn't aware a Tikka was twice the price of a Weatherby Vanguard 2. In fact, I know it is not.

I haven't priced Howas but I suspect they are more than $300-400.

Interesting....the Vanguard accepts the same rails, scope mounts , etc. as the 700. Guess they must come out of the same factory.

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In his defense, he said aftermarket parts ARE available, and lauds the trigger and the action.