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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/11/15 03:14 AM
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Get what ever you can shoot comfortably. I have some cool shotguns but the ones I duck hunt with are Benelli Novas. The supernova in a 12 and Nova in 20. Never had a problem!
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/11/15 03:37 AM
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A300 has been solid for me
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Re: Shotguns
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11/11/15 04:24 AM
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High level competitors shoot a lot, 80,000 rounds up to 400k . They know reliability. And you don't see many A300 shooters. For a reason.
The A300 is a field shotgun within the OP's price range built on a reliable Beretta frame. People who shoot those kinds of numbers you mention either use over/unders, or shot the AL391 in the past or newer A400. Even then the ~400,000 round shooters are accustomed to replacing parts and having work done. By the way there are 525,960 minutes in a year. Benelli are the other semi-auto seeing those kind of numbers and surviving. And in extreme cold, proper lubricant and cleaning for all brands plays more of a role for a semi-auto shotgun that has been broken in.
To be determined
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/11/15 05:03 AM
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I shoot an M3500. Never once had a problem. It has inertia system. I paid $650 for it in black.
It has 3.5 inch capability and goes boom. Really hard to disagree with that.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/11/15 12:03 PM
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Tri Star Viper, uses Beretta choke tubes so you have readily available chokes
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/11/15 01:49 PM
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Weatherby SA-08 is a very good value semi auto if you can accept a 3" shell maximum.
To be determined
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/11/15 02:19 PM
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I was in your shoes a while back I went with an SX3 and abosolutley love it! The A300 and the Affinity are great guns too, it really comes down to what fits you best.
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/11/15 03:09 PM
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SX3 I didn't mention in my earlier post but it's a great gun. Their black gun has a great coating on it that won't get nasty. I had one and it was the softest recoiling gun I've ever owned. I just couldn't get the comb on the stock high enough to fit me right. But they are a great gun at a great price.
FWIW - I have a black 391 that I'll sell you for $800 and it has counter balancers on endcap and in the stock w/ factory blue plastic case. I didn't realize they were so hard to find now. It needs cleaned and if I was going to duck hunt with it I'd have someone hydro dip it.
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/11/15 03:11 PM
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lots of good info on this tread OP has some tough decisions to make
Attention rickym, this is not a troll post, just a good hearted fun type of post
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/12/15 01:51 AM
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Re: Shotguns
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11/12/15 04:29 PM
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3 B's are the way to go... Berreta, Browning, Benelli
Will be tough to get one of the B's in that price range though. You may be looking at a Stoeger or something like that. Maybe a Charles Daly or Mossberg.
I use Browning Maxus and Benelli Vinci, both in the ~1500 range. I believe Beretta is more, but could be wrong. Stoeger is junk. Get A300 beretta for 700 bucks. Stoeger = Benelli without the name. So I really don't understand how one could use the word "junk" so loosely when referencing stoeger.
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/12/15 06:53 PM
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No it's not. The parts aren't even close between a stoeger and benelli
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/12/15 07:28 PM
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Guys, GUYS... you're all wrong Winchester 1300 is where it's at. Only thrown one slide arm, ruining only one duck hunt, plus the one time a spent Kent Fasteel shell got lodged in the barrel rendering my gun temporarily useless as my first ever flock of pintails dropped in on our spread and promptly disappeared. Other than that, and the rib's weld breaking off, and the retainer cap bead disappearing, it's been a solid and reliable dove/duck gun for nearly 10 years!
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/12/15 08:29 PM
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Alright guys I am getting the berreta a300. Thanks for all the help. Now. Is there a good way to break in or does it need it?
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/12/15 08:33 PM
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Judd
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Read the book for break in but normally the break in is shoot a flat of stout shells to get the springs broken in for lighter loads. You're duck loads should be perfect for that.
I'd also give it a good cleaning first.
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Judd]
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11/12/15 09:22 PM
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Read the book for break in but normally the break in is shoot a flat of stout shells to get the springs broken in for lighter loads. You're duck loads should be perfect for that.
I'd also give it a good cleaning first. Definitely a good cleaning. I believe you will find a good YouTube video on cleaning the A300. Be sure to follow the instructions about lubricant. Not a good idea to lube everything on that gas gun. Wipe the moving parts with a quality cleaner first to remove any protectant. I still like to use good old hoppes no 9. You need to be able to take it apart for a proper cleaning. Enjoy the shotgun! Update: yes beretta has a nice cleaning video.
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To be determined
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/12/15 09:50 PM
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Stoeger M3500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Been shooting mine for 3 seasons now, working on season number 4. It has never given me any issues at all other than one time when shooting some light 7/8oz loads while shooting clays, it wouldn't cycle correctly. That only happened about every 15 shots. But when duck hunting, it has never ever had an issue! I love the gun!!! If I remember correctly, it was in the $600-$700 range...
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Deputy T]
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11/12/15 09:51 PM
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3 B's are the way to go... Berreta, Browning, Benelli
Will be tough to get one of the B's in that price range though. You may be looking at a Stoeger or something like that. Maybe a Charles Daly or Mossberg.
I use Browning Maxus and Benelli Vinci, both in the ~1500 range. I believe Beretta is more, but could be wrong. Stoeger is junk. Get A300 beretta for 700 bucks. Stoeger = Benelli without the name. So I really don't understand how one could use the word "junk" so loosely when referencing stoeger. My thoughts exactly...
If you stay ready, you don't have to get ready! -Anonymous
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: yakinthebox]
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11/12/15 09:59 PM
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3 B's are the way to go... Berreta, Browning, Benelli
Will be tough to get one of the B's in that price range though. You may be looking at a Stoeger or something like that. Maybe a Charles Daly or Mossberg.
I use Browning Maxus and Benelli Vinci, both in the ~1500 range. I believe Beretta is more, but could be wrong. Stoeger is junk. Get A300 beretta for 700 bucks. Stoeger = Benelli without the name. So I really don't understand how one could use the word "junk" so loosely when referencing stoeger. My thoughts exactly... its amazing to me that people still buy Stoegers, do a quick search for reviews and get back with me about it being the same as a benelli.
Attention rickym, this is not a troll post, just a good hearted fun type of post
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: garrett]
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11/12/15 10:11 PM
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its amazing to me that people still buy Stoegers, do a quick search for reviews and get back with me about it being the same as a benelli.
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/12/15 10:48 PM
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Hope I'm not too late to join in . I just went through all this decisions a couple weeks ago . I had a long list of guns , talked on 5 different websites forums and narrowed down to 6 top guns then after checking out most of them I went with the FRANCHI AFFINITY 12-ga S.A. , 28" barrel , 3" chamber , wood stock $849.99 at Cabelas . BTW I might add also it has a 7 yr warranty . I went 3" chamber because I heard so many talk about being real sore after shooting 3.5" ammo all day , I didn't want that . The AFFINITY comes with 3 chokes , Mod-IC-Full and adjustment wedges for adjusting drop . Weights 6.8-lbs , magazine 4+1 , LOP 14-3/8" . I'm med size at 5'9" , 220-lbs and this AFFINITY fit me perfect out of the box . This S?G will kill any water fowl or upland birds and can still be used for Trap/Skeet practice . Easy break down and cleaning , Inertia Drive not gas . I struggled between the Affinity and the A300 . What I didn't like about the A300 is the oiled stock and it was dark and weights 7.25-lb. and runs $779.99 at Cabelas . When I tried fitting it , it didn't work for me even tho I know the drop and LOP can be adjusted . If it's not close already out of the box then I have a problem with it . Other than that it's an extremely nice gun ! Now if you insist on a 3.5" Chamber then go with the A350 Xtrema for $999.99 . It has a 3.5" chamber but guaranteed you are going to have to adjust the Drop and LOP . But it's also a great duck gun but a 3" will blow ducks out of the sky as well ! Also it's just been introduced this fall of 2015 so it's brand new and not on the Berettas' website . Now one other I guarantee is a great gun is the Remington 870 WingMaster . Runs $699.99 at Cabelas and I have heard nothing but good about it . It's been a well known and well thought of gun for many decades AND it's made in USA ! FRANCHI AFFINITY Beretta A300 Remington 870 WingMaster Beretta A350
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/12/15 11:00 PM
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Another thing I need to mention is the AFFINITY the minimum shot size is 3-dram, 1-1/8 oz and does not need breaking in . The Berettas need a breakin period and make sure you follow manufactures recommendations or you'll have trouble with shells ejecting properly .
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/12/15 11:14 PM
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You all should realize the Beretta Corp/family owns Benelli, Stoeger, Franchi, among others. Therefore Beretta is catering to different tastes, likes, etc. Inertia vs Gas is somewhat irrelevant, in my opinion. I've seen both fail in the field. The gas failure was because the gun had never been cleaned. The inertia failure was a failure of the spring in the stock due to water rusting it out over time. Point is that they all require maintenance. Take care of what you own and it will be fine.
I do believe get what you pay for in most cases. I'd rather have a Beretta or Benelli rather than one of their offshoots. I've been shooting an A400 in the field for several years and it's a wonderful gun. I'd have to believe the A300 would be somewhat similar. The M3500 is a great gun as long as you shoot 3" shells. My father has one and it does not like 2 3/4" shells (about 1/3 fail to eject), so we don't even bring it to the sporting clay range any more, as it's not reliable with those loads.
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Re: Shotguns
[Re: Blue drake]
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11/12/15 11:57 PM
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With regard to fit. If you like to shoot a lot or just want to shoot better and more comfortably. Go to a professional shotgun fitter. Shooting with a fitted shotgun is really nice,
To be determined
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Re: Shotguns
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11/13/15 12:07 AM
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You all should realize the Beretta Corp/family owns Benelli, Stoeger, Franchi, among others. Therefore Beretta is catering to different tastes, likes, etc. Inertia vs Gas is somewhat irrelevant, in my opinion. I might mention that Beretta is an Italian Company also . The FRANCHI is totally made in Italy , barrel and stock , imported to the USA by Beretta and distributed out to dealers by Beretta . BUT if you have a warranty problem the BerettaUSA will take care of all warranties . http://www.beretta.com/en-us/world-of-beretta/today/
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