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Re: spikes [Re: texas8point] #600864 02/19/09 06:00 PM
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I never aged my longhorn spike, I guess I should have, but I dont think he was ever gonna get any better....






That deer looks like a yearling too...


Re: spikes [Re: AmoCuernos] #600865 02/19/09 07:22 PM
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Come on man....this is hill country, they all look like yearlings til their 2 1/2.....I guessed at the time 2 1/2, but Im no profession deer dentist either.


Re: spikes [Re: texas8point] #600866 02/19/09 07:33 PM
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I never aged my longhorn spike, I guess I should have, but I dont think he was ever gonna get any better....






I woulda popped that one too!


Re: spikes [Re: TEXASLEFTY] #600867 02/19/09 07:59 PM
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Helo, It still sounds to me like your deer herd is not in tip top shape (nutrition). The body weights of your harvested deer should be higher than what you have said they are. If you deer are getting propoer nutrition you will not have a 2.5 year old spike and your deer will way about 10-20 percent more than what you said they do. You are in the same situation as a lot of people. Either you will have to eliminate mouths or create more/better food for the deer. What are you planting for your food plots?




Have you ever been to Helomechc place? I can assure you the deer and hogs are getting more than they can eat. Between the food plots and feeders nutrition is not lacking.




Thanks man.


Re: spikes [Re: texas8point] #600868 02/20/09 01:39 AM
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thats a bad picture to look at him too....cant see his face...


Re: spikes [Re: AmoCuernos] #600869 02/20/09 05:03 AM
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Any way you look at it, he looks young...


Re: spikes [Re: helomech] #600870 02/20/09 11:41 PM
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Those teeth coming in are in the order of accuracy of the tooth ring method.

It's as close to 100% as you are going to get.

If you look at that spike's jaw and those teeth are worn... he was a yearling. If you look and they are sharp he wasn't.

I agree with you he looks a LITTLE bigger... but im not sure from the evidence that it is a 2 year old...

2 year old spikes are extremely rare in my experience.




Have you ever had a 1.5 year old weigh 130lbs? I haven't, especially not in east Texas.




No trying to start a war but I have on two different ranchs.. one by lufkin the other by lake livingston...

One 21k high fecned with light protien feeding the other 2200acres low fence with no protien feeding. Both ranches have had 160 class deer taken

I have never seen an old spike.. I have killed an older(4.5) spike that had brows but never a slick old spike.



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These are the teeth referenced to, in case anybody doesnt know what to look for. There is also another way to age the deer besides tooth wear and it is more accurate as well. It is done under a microscope and they count the cemanthum rings on the roots of the deers two front incisors. This is how all our deer get aged on the ranch, we also look at the wear and guess what it might be before we get the results back.




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These are the teeth referenced to, in case anybody doesnt know what to look for. There is also another way to age the deer besides tooth wear and it is more accurate as well. It is done under a microscope and they count the cemanthum rings on the roots of the deers two front incisors. This is how all our deer get aged on the ranch, we also look at the wear and guess what it might be before we get the results back.





is there a thread that shows you how to age deer by their teeth? If not, may you could start one?


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I thought once a spike..........always a spike


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Re: spikes [Re: 10pointdoe] #600877 02/24/09 04:50 AM
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I thought once a spike..........always a spike



not necesarilly, but usually wont grow ver large at all


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