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.223 for AR? #595086 02/10/09 11:12 PM
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Need some experienced voices here. I have been reloading like crazy for all of my rifles. Now it is time for the .223. In the past all we did was follow the normal path for a bolt action rifle. Now that I am lucky enough to have an AR. Question is:

Are there any specific things to do differently when reloading ammo specifically for an AR?

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Re: .223 for AR? [Re: Jim_Bob] #595087 02/11/09 09:34 AM
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I have been reloading for 204 and 223, and I just do it like always.

I have a new RRA Preditor Pursuit, and loaded about 150 for it and have not had any malfunctions at all.

Some of my rifles I just necksize, but I think for an AR you need to full length resize, but that is JMO



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Re: .223 for AR? [Re: moderno] #595088 02/11/09 09:55 AM
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the AR is designed to handle 5.56 pressures which are significantly higher than .223. So you are fine using .223 data..

The general rule with NATO rounds are:
7.62X51 is safe in a .308 chamber
5.56X45 is not safe in a .223 chamber


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Quote:

the AR is designed to handle 5.56 pressures which are significantly higher than .223. So you are fine using .223 data..

The general rule with NATO rounds are:
7.62X51 is safe in a .308 chamber
5.56X45 is not safe in a .223 chamber




Thanks! I am very familiar with the pressures and differences here. Back in the old days, we always thought that for autoloading rifles additional steps in sizing and seating specs were needed. I was/am not sure if that holds true for AR type rifles.

I will keep well within limits and test fire a few recipes.

Any other words of wisdom?

Thank you both for the insight thus far!

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Re: .223 for AR? [Re: Jim_Bob] #595090 02/12/09 02:09 AM
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Unless you had a custom AR built, it should have a NATO chamber which is a loose chamber with a long throat. Some seat the rounds to magazine length but I prefer to just load V-Maxs to the standard FMJ length. Just make sure you put a light crimp on the round even if the round you choose doesn't have a cannelure. The recoil and rocking around in the magazine can/may change your seating depth as you are firing without the crimp. This can be offset with good aftermarket muzzle brakes.

I have good luck with the 60gr V-Max over Reloader 15. Standard carbines have held 3/4 MOA with my Gemtech Piranha silencer screwed on the end of it. 1.25 MOA without the sound suppressor.


Re: .223 for AR? [Re: NTRP] #595091 02/12/09 03:45 AM
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One thing you might check is the base diameter of a sized case. Some FL dies won't size the base enough, especially if the brass was fired in a loose chamber to begin with.

You may need a set of small base dies if you run into this.

it's best to check after sizing a few test cases It's bad to find out after you've reloaded several hundred rounds. Ask me how I know. :


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Re: .223 for AR? [Re: El Tiburon] #595092 02/12/09 04:18 AM
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good call El,

A lot of once fired brass you buy these days was actually fired through a machine gun. This brass usually needs a Small Base die to reform it to a diameter to fit within your chamber.

If it is brass you have only shot in a bolt rifle or your own personal gasser, a regular FL should be sufficient.


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