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Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/19/15 01:58 AM
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Local liquor store does NOT serve on premises. Basic liquor store. Can they legally post a 51% sign??? They are not a bar, not attached to any other business by a door or anything. I know 30.06 but this is 51% sign.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/19/15 02:42 AM
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If they don't serve alcohol, they can't be a 51% establishment. They probably don't understand the 51% rule.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/19/15 05:07 AM
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If they don't serve alcohol, they can't be a 51% establishment. They probably don't understand the 51% rule.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/19/15 12:44 PM
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Actually, I believe the law states, "If alcohol sales constitute more than half of gross receipts..."
The law doesn't distinguish between being consumed or "served"...just sold. In which case, the 51% signage is valid and legal.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/19/15 12:57 PM
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Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:
(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
Wrong sign
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/19/15 03:40 PM
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Grizz
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Actually, I believe the law states, "If alcohol sales constitute more than half of gross receipts..."
The law doesn't distinguish between being consumed or "served"...just sold. In which case, the 51% signage is valid and legal. From the TABC website: "The second sign, the 51% sign, is to be posted on the premises of establishments where the possession of any concealed weapon is illegal. These are establishments that are licensed to sell alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption whose alcohol sales constitutes more than half of gross receipts. These signs have 51% in large red letters superimposed over the warning and the warning notes that possession of a concealed weapon on the premises is a felony."
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/20/15 07:34 PM
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I agree, wrong sign. I have never seen a 51% sign on a liquor store.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/25/15 11:33 PM
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Either way, still wouldn't tote one in a liquor store.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/26/15 07:40 PM
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Either way, still wouldn't tote one in a liquor store. Why not?
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/26/15 09:22 PM
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I don't think CHL holders can legally carry in liquor stores.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/26/15 09:43 PM
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Liquor stores are not included in the prohibited places for CHL holders. It is legal unless they have a 30.06 or equivalent sign posted.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/26/15 09:53 PM
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I don't think CHL holders can legally carry in liquor stores. Please read the law. Too many people post incorrect things about liquor stores and school parking lots etc, read the law.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/27/15 04:11 PM
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I don't think CHL holders can legally carry in liquor stores. I keep a gun in my vehicles I rarely carry on myself, But banks and liquor stores are places I carry, I assume they are risky areas.......
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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09/27/15 05:21 PM
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Nice to know fellas. Thanks.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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10/04/15 09:30 PM
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Either way, still wouldn't tote one in a liquor store. Why not? I am curious as well.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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12/12/15 03:04 AM
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I don't carry one in a liquor store. I carry TWO.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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12/12/15 02:35 PM
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The owner of the liquor store told me I could not carry in his store. Silly me I believed him.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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12/17/15 07:07 AM
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The owner of the liquor store told me I could not carry in his store. Silly me I believed him. Well, if the owner gave you verbal notification that you can not carry in his store, then you can't. Does he just routinely tell everyone that they can not carry there? How did he know you were carrying?
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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12/17/15 12:03 PM
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He is a Marine so we talked. He told me he was not allowed have a gun in the store when I asked about CC. I left the gun in the truck after that. But I will carry it now.
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Re: Liquor store 51% sign???
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12/17/15 05:56 PM
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Pretty sure business owners can carry in their business and any workers they want to let carry that work there.
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